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this is another episode

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ufo garage i'm ben and i'm joe and this

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is where we talk about ufos

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aliens and all things

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so dude uh pretty excited about this one

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man

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yeah yeah it's gonna be a good one uh

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we've got reid summers with us

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um and i know a lot of you guys out

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there y'all absolutely

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loved the episode that we did with

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justin i think that's one of the most

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views that

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we've gotten on any of them most views

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most comments most

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interactions i mean people really

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resonate with uh

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kind of the perspective that uh he kind

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of brought to the table we haven't

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really experienced that yet

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yeah yeah so so now we're gonna we're

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gonna be

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talking to reid summers um and his

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father is the one who actually

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received the messages and so you know

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reads uh with us tonight and he's gonna

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be

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you know chit chatting with us about

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what these messages are

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and and kind of what they're all about

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so read

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if you don't mind uh say hi to everybody

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and uh just

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kind of kind of introduce yourself a

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little bit and tell everybody about you

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man

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sure well thank you for having me on joe

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and ben pleasure to be here

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um i've been looking at the possibility

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of

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life for a large

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portion of my life and i think it's one

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of the most

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important issues in the world today one

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of the greatest stories not told

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and potentially the greatest event in

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human history

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and yet how few people are aware of it

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my god

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so oh yeah uh it's it's always great to

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um have an open candid conversation

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what's happening what does it mean what

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do we do about it

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um and and consider this gigantic

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evolutionary event

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in human history yeah absolutely man

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absolutely so i i think maybe a good

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starting point is uh explaining to us

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what is uh allies of humanity

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what is it that you guys uh you know

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you guys think uh i mean what it what is

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it all about

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sure well the allies of humanity are a

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group of individuals

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who gathered in the vicinity of the

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gosh over 20 years ago and delivered a

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series of briefings

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to my father marshall v on summers and

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they delivered their first set of

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briefings in 1997

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and then three other sets of briefings

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in the years following

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and their essential mission as they

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was to observe the very dangerous form

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of contact occurring in our world

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which they call the alien intervention

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to warn us of this and to educate us

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about what life is like

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in our local universe our neighborhood

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which is something we would not be able

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gesture of assistance from

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um from those who know what that

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so uh you know i and many people around

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the world are studying these briefings

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they're translated into

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dozens of languages and i believe they

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one of the most candid clear and

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pictures about the nature of contact who

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what they're doing and why they're here

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that you can find

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out there in a very uh confusing and

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polluted environment of competing

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you know theories and conspiracies and

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accounts that you'll find out there so i

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a huge breath of fresh air and many many

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people around the world respond the same

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way when they when they read these these

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briefings from the allies of humanity

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yeah i like the way you say individuals

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because i mean my my brain

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immediately thinks uh okay so there's a

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is that kind of like just a short

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version of that or

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you call them the allies of humanity

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which is like a perfect name

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so is it am i correct in thinking that

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it's it's a multitude of

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species that are kind of looking out for

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well i think it would be helpful to step

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of of our local universe because that

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kind of explains who the allies are who

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so and and what i'm what i can give you

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here is this is this picture provided

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by them in their briefings and also by a

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set of revelations received by my father

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alongside the allies of humanity

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humanity about this enormous

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universe of life in which we exist

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so these two sources the allies of

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and the new message what we call the new

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combined to present a picture a very

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clear and grounded picture of what

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and in essence in in a in a brief

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account uh it is a lot like life is down

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it's nature on a vast scale uh you have

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physical form you can imagine out there

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uh thinking we're alone you know like

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uh and unbeknownst to us we're sitting

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you know and in time a variety of

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characters appear at our shores

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missionaries the traitors the

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give you technology advance you cure

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what that is is a set

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whether it's that our savior has come in

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make that promise but they're here for

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analogy i mean i think you mentioned it

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colonizing forces throughout human

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for you name it and that's how it is out

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are those who came the long distance to

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uh the allies reveal space travel is is

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free wheeling enterprise you know it

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in the universe so um yes

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there is a perhaps an impulse to improve

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justification of their deeper intentions

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which is to improve us

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cattle they look at us

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destroying this beautiful world that

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they would use for themselves they look

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they have no right to be here and to

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rule this world because of the job

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they're doing

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um there are people who subscribe to

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that and

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and say yes let the let the et forces

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come let them govern

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and these are people who have lost faith

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in humanity

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and they have lost faith in human

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leadership they have had their own sense

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of reality

302
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uh debased and this extraterrestrial

303
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messaging has been put in their minds

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either

305
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overtly or subtly and there's a lot of

306
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it going on out there

307
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behind the scenes so to answer your

308
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question

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um i don't think it's an entire

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inherently human

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uh intention to improve upon the the

312
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unruly natives

313
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um all colonizing forces would would put

314
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forth that justification

315
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yeah yeah yeah wow so uh

316
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yeah that's that's kind of blowing my

317
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mind just

318
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kind of thinking through all of that

319
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stuff i mean the the

320
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their their own intentions is what's

321
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what would scare people right like

322
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what are their intentions i mean has

323
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have you guys been able to

324
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uh uh figure out what these

325
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i mean let's say i feel like right now

326
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maybe i need to step back but i feel

327
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like there's there's a good side and a

328
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bad side and i think the good side is

329
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you know the allies of humanity right

330
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that are trying to warn us and

331
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educate us about what's actually going

332
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on in our neighborhood

333
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and then you have these these forces

334
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that are trying to

335
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i guess take over the planet it was like

336
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the like the uh

337
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orson welles version of of of that

338
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sentiment

339
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but uh do we do we know like what like

340
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why do they need to

341
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take over the planet without you know uh

342
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uh war you know i feel like they've been

343
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at this for a long time politically and

344
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and subconsciously do you

345
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is there some kind of galactic rule that

346
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they can't just come in here and just

347
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take things over

348
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yeah good questions well um

349
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yes there are rules that govern what uh

350
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different races can do out there and as

351
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it turns out

352
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the allies of humanity say that we live

353
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in a highly

354
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inhabited part of the universe where

355
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there are long-standing agreements

356
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and requirements for how interaction and

357
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trade and

358
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conquest can take place and outright

359
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conquest is not allowed

360
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military invasion is not allowed and

361
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in part it's not just a rule that

362
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governs over everyone out there it's

363
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that

364
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there are much better more effective

365
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ways

366
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to to make conquest successful in an

367
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emerging world like ours

368
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it's important to understand that they

369
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want the resources of this planet

370
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okay they don't want to destroy those

371
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they need the infrastructure we have

372
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built over the last 200 years

373
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since the industrial revolution whether

374
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it's transportation communication

375
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the integration of economies worldwide

376
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they need that

377
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they need to use what we've made they

378
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wouldn't want to destroy that

379
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and they need us we are part of the

380
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resource

381
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not only the workforce to extract it but

382
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actually and unfortunately

383
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part of the biological resource itself

384
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and that gets into kind of the darker

385
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aspects of the interventions activities

386
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um but i think it's important to

387
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understand that

388
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our local universe is an expression of

389
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nature um

390
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it's not neither is an entirely

391
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spiritual or entirely loving or an

392
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entirely fearful universe it's

393
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it's it's what it is it's nature yeah so

394
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what we need

395
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is to become aware that this

396
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enormous event is taking place that will

397
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change every aspect of life on earth

398
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in a very potentially beneficial way we

399
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can talk more about that

400
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and also to undergo an education and a

401
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preparation for this

402
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i mean we have to become human beings

403
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2.0

404
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truly to engage on this greater arena of

405
00:13:48,389 --> 00:13:44,720
life

406
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and not just become you know uh a client

407
00:13:52,389 --> 00:13:50,320
state of a larger power

408
00:13:54,310 --> 00:13:52,399
uh to not just devolve into conflict and

409
00:13:56,389 --> 00:13:54,320
war over you know who has access to the

410
00:13:58,629 --> 00:13:56,399
visitors gifts of technology and who has

411
00:14:01,590 --> 00:13:58,639
access to the visitors you know

412
00:14:03,110 --> 00:14:01,600
uh to their ear to their you know to

413
00:14:05,670 --> 00:14:03,120
their capabilities

414
00:14:06,629 --> 00:14:05,680
so it's a it's a big time awareness

415
00:14:09,189 --> 00:14:06,639
education

416
00:14:10,629 --> 00:14:09,199
preparation right process up ahead for

417
00:14:12,790 --> 00:14:10,639
us that's really

418
00:14:13,990 --> 00:14:12,800
what i'm about that's what the allies

419
00:14:15,430 --> 00:14:14,000
are about and

420
00:14:17,110 --> 00:14:15,440
all those people in the world who are

421
00:14:18,389 --> 00:14:17,120
reading and studying and advocating for

422
00:14:19,269 --> 00:14:18,399
that message that's what they're about

423
00:14:22,069 --> 00:14:19,279
this is

424
00:14:23,670 --> 00:14:22,079
fundamentally about uh becoming united

425
00:14:24,230 --> 00:14:23,680
as a race so that we can engage in the

426
00:14:26,629 --> 00:14:24,240
learner

427
00:14:27,590 --> 00:14:26,639
larger panorama of life beyond our race

428
00:14:30,389 --> 00:14:27,600
right and um

429
00:14:32,230 --> 00:14:30,399
it's even you could i mean even if i'm

430
00:14:33,590 --> 00:14:32,240
wrong even if the allies are not real

431
00:14:35,670 --> 00:14:33,600
even if there's no intervention

432
00:14:37,110 --> 00:14:35,680
essentially what they advocate is the

433
00:14:39,670 --> 00:14:37,120
preservation of the earth's

434
00:14:40,949 --> 00:14:39,680
environment and resources in a

435
00:14:43,990 --> 00:14:40,959
self-sufficient

436
00:14:45,350 --> 00:14:44,000
way for us the unification of human

437
00:14:47,829 --> 00:14:45,360
societies

438
00:14:48,949 --> 00:14:47,839
in an equitable and in way that honors

439
00:14:51,670 --> 00:14:48,959
diversity

440
00:14:54,069 --> 00:14:51,680
um and our discretion in the local

441
00:14:57,269 --> 00:14:54,079
universe not broadcasting out into space

442
00:14:58,949 --> 00:14:57,279
everything we think do uh and believe

443
00:15:02,710 --> 00:14:58,959
for everyone else to listen to

444
00:15:05,269 --> 00:15:02,720
and to watch and observe so those three

445
00:15:06,310 --> 00:15:05,279
fundamental activities um that the

446
00:15:09,350 --> 00:15:06,320
allies encourage

447
00:15:12,550 --> 00:15:09,360
i mean why not yeah yeah so i

448
00:15:13,509 --> 00:15:12,560
i find it interesting so if if we were

449
00:15:18,230 --> 00:15:13,519
to achieve

450
00:15:21,910 --> 00:15:18,240
this becoming uh i guess human 2.0

451
00:15:23,990 --> 00:15:21,920
um how how would that then

452
00:15:25,350 --> 00:15:24,000
you know with the what the with the the

453
00:15:27,509 --> 00:15:25,360
invaders or

454
00:15:29,030 --> 00:15:27,519
or the the colonizers whatever we want

455
00:15:32,230 --> 00:15:29,040
to call them with what they

456
00:15:33,990 --> 00:15:32,240
i mean would they be like oh uh maybe we

457
00:15:37,189 --> 00:15:34,000
should we shouldn't go there or or

458
00:15:37,509 --> 00:15:37,199
even if we did become humans 2.0 would

459
00:15:41,269 --> 00:15:37,519
they

460
00:15:43,350 --> 00:15:41,279
still be trying to to take this planet

461
00:15:44,470 --> 00:15:43,360
and our resources from us i mean is this

462
00:15:48,069 --> 00:15:44,480
something that

463
00:15:50,230 --> 00:15:48,079
happened to the allies uh themselves

464
00:15:51,509 --> 00:15:50,240
and that's why they know about this and

465
00:15:53,910 --> 00:15:51,519
they're warning us or

466
00:15:56,069 --> 00:15:53,920
or i mean how does how does that work

467
00:15:58,310 --> 00:15:56,079
yeah it's a big picture big

468
00:16:00,150 --> 00:15:58,320
big and very interesting picture uh yes

469
00:16:01,430 --> 00:16:00,160
the allies did experience intervention

470
00:16:03,509 --> 00:16:01,440
into their worlds

471
00:16:05,749 --> 00:16:03,519
that is why they're here they're here in

472
00:16:07,110 --> 00:16:05,759
a reciprocal gesture to another emerging

473
00:16:08,150 --> 00:16:07,120
world going through what they went

474
00:16:10,389 --> 00:16:08,160
through

475
00:16:11,269 --> 00:16:10,399
they too say they were served by another

476
00:16:14,230 --> 00:16:11,279
set

477
00:16:16,790 --> 00:16:14,240
of forces allies to their to their

478
00:16:18,790 --> 00:16:16,800
societies who came and warned them

479
00:16:19,910 --> 00:16:18,800
wow and in many and in many cases the

480
00:16:22,629 --> 00:16:19,920
allies who have

481
00:16:23,030 --> 00:16:22,639
come to our world say that their races

482
00:16:25,829 --> 00:16:23,040
uh

483
00:16:27,509 --> 00:16:25,839
did not become aware of the intervention

484
00:16:28,949 --> 00:16:27,519
that was taking place they did not unite

485
00:16:31,269 --> 00:16:28,959
around it they actually

486
00:16:32,790 --> 00:16:31,279
succumbed to many of its inducements of

487
00:16:36,069 --> 00:16:32,800
free technology

488
00:16:39,430 --> 00:16:36,079
of peace salvation and

489
00:16:40,790 --> 00:16:39,440
redemption and as a result became a very

490
00:16:42,790 --> 00:16:40,800
fractured world

491
00:16:44,550 --> 00:16:42,800
and it was only through great conflict

492
00:16:45,910 --> 00:16:44,560
loss and destruction that they recovered

493
00:16:48,230 --> 00:16:45,920
their freedom

494
00:16:50,069 --> 00:16:48,240
from these collectives what the allies

495
00:16:54,389 --> 00:16:50,079
call collectives which are these

496
00:16:56,790 --> 00:16:54,399
multiracial uh resource exploiting

497
00:16:57,990 --> 00:16:56,800
organizations that weave themselves into

498
00:17:00,949 --> 00:16:58,000
the psychology

499
00:17:02,069 --> 00:17:00,959
and into the biology of the emerging

500
00:17:05,110 --> 00:17:02,079
world and and

501
00:17:06,710 --> 00:17:05,120
that race and it is only through great

502
00:17:09,350 --> 00:17:06,720
travail that they can be

503
00:17:10,309 --> 00:17:09,360
uh repelled later on and so the allies

504
00:17:12,949 --> 00:17:10,319
urge us

505
00:17:14,870 --> 00:17:12,959
to become aware contact is happening and

506
00:17:16,630 --> 00:17:14,880
that it is an intervention it is not a

507
00:17:19,429 --> 00:17:16,640
friendly visitation

508
00:17:20,630 --> 00:17:19,439
that is their essential message it's

509
00:17:23,829 --> 00:17:20,640
it's

510
00:17:27,270 --> 00:17:23,839
this whole

511
00:17:28,710 --> 00:17:27,280
topic is almost like you could almost

512
00:17:31,029 --> 00:17:28,720
use it as a metaphor

513
00:17:31,990 --> 00:17:31,039
to the way we live today you know just

514
00:17:34,470 --> 00:17:32,000
like as regular

515
00:17:35,669 --> 00:17:34,480
human on human contact i mean you've got

516
00:17:38,470 --> 00:17:35,679
the masses

517
00:17:39,750 --> 00:17:38,480
you know of of the whole world and then

518
00:17:41,830 --> 00:17:39,760
you know you seem to have like these

519
00:17:42,789 --> 00:17:41,840
giant corporations and things like that

520
00:17:44,789 --> 00:17:42,799
that are you know

521
00:17:45,990 --> 00:17:44,799
exploiting these resources around the

522
00:17:47,830 --> 00:17:46,000
world and there's there's

523
00:17:49,510 --> 00:17:47,840
a few people who are saying hey you

524
00:17:51,350 --> 00:17:49,520
gotta be careful you gotta watch out for

525
00:17:53,669 --> 00:17:51,360
these guys you know and they're warning

526
00:17:55,029 --> 00:17:53,679
you know the public uh and and the

527
00:17:57,350 --> 00:17:55,039
public for the most part is

528
00:17:59,029 --> 00:17:57,360
is so uh content with their day-to-day

529
00:18:00,470 --> 00:17:59,039
life or they're so busy that

530
00:18:02,470 --> 00:18:00,480
they don't tend to pay attention to

531
00:18:03,990 --> 00:18:02,480
stuff like that uh you know

532
00:18:06,150 --> 00:18:04,000
and now you're starting to see more

533
00:18:07,350 --> 00:18:06,160
people starting to kind of wake up and

534
00:18:09,190 --> 00:18:07,360
it's like oh yeah they

535
00:18:10,470 --> 00:18:09,200
are destroying the rain forest or they

536
00:18:12,630 --> 00:18:10,480
are exploiting these

537
00:18:14,150 --> 00:18:12,640
little islands with these tribes on it

538
00:18:15,590 --> 00:18:14,160
you know and and we're starting to see

539
00:18:16,870 --> 00:18:15,600
that now and you're starting to see kind

540
00:18:20,150 --> 00:18:16,880
of this push back

541
00:18:22,470 --> 00:18:20,160
in in our own society it kind of seems

542
00:18:25,190 --> 00:18:22,480
like this whole issue is almost like

543
00:18:26,950 --> 00:18:25,200
on that next step that next level so

544
00:18:29,830 --> 00:18:26,960
once we can conquer that like

545
00:18:31,270 --> 00:18:29,840
here on earth with our with ourselves

546
00:18:33,750 --> 00:18:31,280
then it's something that we could

547
00:18:36,390 --> 00:18:33,760
you know really start to focus on you

548
00:18:38,630 --> 00:18:36,400
know on this galactic level

549
00:18:39,510 --> 00:18:38,640
right now it's that's really interesting

550
00:18:42,310 --> 00:18:39,520
you bring that up

551
00:18:44,070 --> 00:18:42,320
it is analogous in many ways to this

552
00:18:46,150 --> 00:18:44,080
modern world and the ancient world i

553
00:18:48,549 --> 00:18:46,160
mean human history is a history

554
00:18:50,789 --> 00:18:48,559
of colonizing and invading forces

555
00:18:51,669 --> 00:18:50,799
neutralizing other peoples absorbing

556
00:18:55,669 --> 00:18:51,679
them

557
00:18:57,750 --> 00:18:55,679
being reabsorbed into another invader

558
00:18:59,190 --> 00:18:57,760
and no wonder because that happens in

559
00:19:02,630 --> 00:18:59,200
nature as well

560
00:19:05,270 --> 00:19:02,640
and so they we need to consider

561
00:19:06,150 --> 00:19:05,280
that we live in a universe like that to

562
00:19:07,669 --> 00:19:06,160
get back to your

563
00:19:09,750 --> 00:19:07,679
earlier question will there be more

564
00:19:11,270 --> 00:19:09,760
interventions even if we become human

565
00:19:14,230 --> 00:19:11,280
beings 2.0 yes

566
00:19:15,430 --> 00:19:14,240
they will not stop that's because we're

567
00:19:17,990 --> 00:19:15,440
in an environment

568
00:19:19,990 --> 00:19:18,000
where there are forces that are that are

569
00:19:20,870 --> 00:19:20,000
built around this this is what they do

570
00:19:23,110 --> 00:19:20,880
it's like

571
00:19:24,390 --> 00:19:23,120
you can't go into a mall and not be

572
00:19:26,789 --> 00:19:24,400
advertised to

573
00:19:27,430 --> 00:19:26,799
right right right it's what it is you

574
00:19:31,830 --> 00:19:27,440
can't

575
00:19:33,029 --> 00:19:31,840
people attacking one another it's what

576
00:19:35,510 --> 00:19:33,039
happens

577
00:19:36,470 --> 00:19:35,520
i mean you can be a person of a greater

578
00:19:39,909 --> 00:19:36,480
awareness

579
00:19:43,029 --> 00:19:39,919
of a more spiritual inclination

580
00:19:44,630 --> 00:19:43,039
and greater commitment to values and and

581
00:19:46,789 --> 00:19:44,640
walk through those environments

582
00:19:48,789 --> 00:19:46,799
and influence them for the good and that

583
00:19:49,990 --> 00:19:48,799
is exactly what the allies of humanity

584
00:19:52,150 --> 00:19:50,000
want for humanity

585
00:19:54,390 --> 00:19:52,160
that we not become a client state that

586
00:19:56,390 --> 00:19:54,400
we not become an intervener

587
00:19:58,630 --> 00:19:56,400
a com you know a predatory race

588
00:19:59,270 --> 00:19:58,640
ourselves in 100 or 200 or a thousand

589
00:20:02,470 --> 00:19:59,280
years

590
00:20:03,029 --> 00:20:02,480
right that we become a society uh that

591
00:20:06,149 --> 00:20:03,039
honors

592
00:20:08,149 --> 00:20:06,159
the values of our spiritual nature

593
00:20:10,310 --> 00:20:08,159
the importance of compassion and

594
00:20:13,110 --> 00:20:10,320
relationship between beings

595
00:20:14,230 --> 00:20:13,120
the preservation of environment and that

596
00:20:16,549 --> 00:20:14,240
we could contribute that

597
00:20:17,270 --> 00:20:16,559
as a race and so that we could become

598
00:20:20,230 --> 00:20:17,280
allies

599
00:20:20,630 --> 00:20:20,240
to another emerging world ourselves so

600
00:20:27,270 --> 00:20:20,640
there's

601
00:20:29,110 --> 00:20:27,280
that's forming around humanity and our

602
00:20:30,470 --> 00:20:29,120
place in the world and in the universe

603
00:20:32,149 --> 00:20:30,480
at this moment

604
00:20:34,710 --> 00:20:32,159
even with what we're facing right now

605
00:20:37,029 --> 00:20:34,720
with this covet pandemic

606
00:20:39,110 --> 00:20:37,039
the increasing fracturing of of modern

607
00:20:40,070 --> 00:20:39,120
nations the economic and stability of

608
00:20:43,350 --> 00:20:40,080
this nation

609
00:20:45,830 --> 00:20:43,360
we are undergoing a a

610
00:20:48,230 --> 00:20:45,840
process older than time well not quite

611
00:20:51,110 --> 00:20:48,240
older than time about as old as time

612
00:20:52,070 --> 00:20:51,120
uh where races become more technological

613
00:20:54,149 --> 00:20:52,080
more secular

614
00:20:55,270 --> 00:20:54,159
they strip their worlds of their world's

615
00:20:56,710 --> 00:20:55,280
own resources

616
00:20:58,789 --> 00:20:56,720
and they become dependent on these

617
00:21:02,470 --> 00:20:58,799
powerful networks beyond them

618
00:21:04,470 --> 00:21:02,480
that then dictate life as they know it

619
00:21:06,070 --> 00:21:04,480
and they lose their freedom and they

620
00:21:09,350 --> 00:21:06,080
become absorbed into this

621
00:21:11,990 --> 00:21:09,360
network of competition

622
00:21:12,870 --> 00:21:12,000
and conflict whereas they had the

623
00:21:15,270 --> 00:21:12,880
potential

624
00:21:17,029 --> 00:21:15,280
to be a part of another network a

625
00:21:19,510 --> 00:21:17,039
network of

626
00:21:21,029 --> 00:21:19,520
a greater force for good that's moving

627
00:21:23,029 --> 00:21:21,039
reverse as well so

628
00:21:26,630 --> 00:21:23,039
we're we're making contact right now

629
00:21:29,909 --> 00:21:26,640
with the other 99.99999

630
00:21:30,789 --> 00:21:29,919
percent of life and there's there's

631
00:21:32,470 --> 00:21:30,799
risks

632
00:21:34,549 --> 00:21:32,480
in that we're facing intervention that's

633
00:21:36,549 --> 00:21:34,559
our first contact just like the natives

634
00:21:39,110 --> 00:21:36,559
did in the history of human

635
00:21:41,110 --> 00:21:39,120
uh human societies but we're also

636
00:21:43,110 --> 00:21:41,120
becoming a part of a larger arena

637
00:21:45,990 --> 00:21:43,120
where we can express what is good and

638
00:21:48,390 --> 00:21:46,000
maintain and preserve what is good

639
00:21:49,430 --> 00:21:48,400
and we live on this beautiful planet you

640
00:21:52,230 --> 00:21:49,440
know and what

641
00:21:54,070 --> 00:21:52,240
what a gem what what a what a precious

642
00:21:55,510 --> 00:21:54,080
thing we have as a human race that we

643
00:21:57,909 --> 00:21:55,520
could protect

644
00:21:59,029 --> 00:21:57,919
and make real a hundred years from now

645
00:22:00,870 --> 00:21:59,039
and you're right there

646
00:22:02,310 --> 00:22:00,880
there is a almost like a battle line

647
00:22:05,350 --> 00:22:02,320
being drawn on that

648
00:22:08,470 --> 00:22:05,360
front in in the world today

649
00:22:10,070 --> 00:22:08,480
yeah i mean so do you think do you think

650
00:22:13,110 --> 00:22:10,080
at some point

651
00:22:14,310 --> 00:22:13,120
uh if we if we if we don't kill it

652
00:22:17,510 --> 00:22:14,320
ourselves first

653
00:22:19,669 --> 00:22:17,520
and we do reach this this human 2.0

654
00:22:20,630 --> 00:22:19,679
do you think at some point in our

655
00:22:22,870 --> 00:22:20,640
history

656
00:22:23,990 --> 00:22:22,880
we're gonna have to raise our come and

657
00:22:26,149 --> 00:22:24,000
take it flag

658
00:22:27,750 --> 00:22:26,159
and uh tell those guys i'll be your

659
00:22:29,990 --> 00:22:27,760
huckleberry you know like

660
00:22:32,230 --> 00:22:30,000
are we gonna eventually have to i mean

661
00:22:35,110 --> 00:22:32,240
fight these guys off or is there

662
00:22:36,070 --> 00:22:35,120
a way to like peacefully resolve this

663
00:22:39,669 --> 00:22:36,080
issue

664
00:22:42,710 --> 00:22:39,679
or you know i mean what what can we

665
00:22:43,430 --> 00:22:42,720
do about it like well it's important to

666
00:22:46,149 --> 00:22:43,440
know what's

667
00:22:47,750 --> 00:22:46,159
what's happening now what they are doing

668
00:22:51,350 --> 00:22:47,760
that we would then repel

669
00:22:53,110 --> 00:22:51,360
or or uh resist the intervention is not

670
00:22:55,029 --> 00:22:53,120
a military force

671
00:22:56,470 --> 00:22:55,039
they're not a large force they're not

672
00:22:59,669 --> 00:22:56,480
everywhere

673
00:23:03,029 --> 00:22:59,679
um they they come a long distance

674
00:23:06,630 --> 00:23:03,039
with a few crew limited supplies

675
00:23:09,750 --> 00:23:06,640
and a very specific mission which is

676
00:23:11,270 --> 00:23:09,760
to genetically alter the human race to

677
00:23:13,350 --> 00:23:11,280
produce a leadership

678
00:23:15,350 --> 00:23:13,360
that is aligned to them that will govern

679
00:23:18,549 --> 00:23:15,360
this planet according to what they want

680
00:23:19,990 --> 00:23:18,559
into the deep future to secure the

681
00:23:23,270 --> 00:23:20,000
resources of this world

682
00:23:26,230 --> 00:23:23,280
for themselves and

683
00:23:27,590 --> 00:23:26,240
to generate broad human support for

684
00:23:29,190 --> 00:23:27,600
their presence here so that

685
00:23:31,590 --> 00:23:29,200
they are allowed to be here because

686
00:23:34,549 --> 00:23:31,600
again they they are not allowed

687
00:23:36,310 --> 00:23:34,559
to militarily conquer another world they

688
00:23:39,590 --> 00:23:36,320
have to be invited

689
00:23:42,630 --> 00:23:39,600
so they are a small force operating

690
00:23:45,110 --> 00:23:42,640
in very specific ways operating

691
00:23:46,870 --> 00:23:45,120
in corridors of power and influencing

692
00:23:49,909 --> 00:23:46,880
the thinking the broad thinking

693
00:23:51,350 --> 00:23:49,919
of billions of people that can all be

694
00:23:51,990 --> 00:23:51,360
down now that we know that how do we

695
00:23:55,669 --> 00:23:52,000
resist that

696
00:23:57,909 --> 00:23:55,679
how does that end right amazingly

697
00:24:00,230 --> 00:23:57,919
we don't need to take up arms against

698
00:24:03,029 --> 00:24:00,240
them physical arms

699
00:24:04,070 --> 00:24:03,039
we need to generate awareness we need to

700
00:24:05,750 --> 00:24:04,080
reach four percent

701
00:24:07,750 --> 00:24:05,760
of the world or five percent of the

702
00:24:09,430 --> 00:24:07,760
world a couple hundred million people

703
00:24:10,950 --> 00:24:09,440
with the basic awareness

704
00:24:13,269 --> 00:24:10,960
where that we're not alone in the

705
00:24:15,430 --> 00:24:13,279
universe that our world

706
00:24:17,110 --> 00:24:15,440
is probably a rare one and might be

707
00:24:19,669 --> 00:24:17,120
desired by others

708
00:24:21,590 --> 00:24:19,679
and that we are being visited and that

709
00:24:25,269 --> 00:24:21,600
the visitors are engaging in almost

710
00:24:27,750 --> 00:24:25,279
uni almost entirely negative

711
00:24:29,510 --> 00:24:27,760
behaviors that indicate a negative

712
00:24:31,830 --> 00:24:29,520
intent for us

713
00:24:33,669 --> 00:24:31,840
if that awareness could be could be

714
00:24:36,310 --> 00:24:33,679
given to millions of people

715
00:24:37,590 --> 00:24:36,320
that would be the beginning right yes

716
00:24:39,350 --> 00:24:37,600
there are other steps

717
00:24:42,070 --> 00:24:39,360
um that need to be taken into the deeper

718
00:24:44,549 --> 00:24:42,080
history or the deeper future rather but

719
00:24:46,630 --> 00:24:44,559
it's really awareness it's education and

720
00:24:49,350 --> 00:24:46,640
it's specific forms of action

721
00:24:49,830 --> 00:24:49,360
so i'm thinking i mean i maybe this is

722
00:24:52,789 --> 00:24:49,840
just

723
00:24:54,549 --> 00:24:52,799
uh my lizard brain no pun intended but

724
00:24:56,390 --> 00:24:54,559
my lizard brain talking but

725
00:24:57,750 --> 00:24:56,400
again back to joe's point like at some

726
00:24:59,510 --> 00:24:57,760
point i feel like to

727
00:25:00,789 --> 00:24:59,520
propel something you would have to be

728
00:25:03,430 --> 00:25:00,799
physical but what

729
00:25:05,510 --> 00:25:03,440
what i'm hearing from you is maybe

730
00:25:06,470 --> 00:25:05,520
there's a consciousness aspect of this

731
00:25:09,269 --> 00:25:06,480
where

732
00:25:10,230 --> 00:25:09,279
i i think justin had mentioned that in

733
00:25:13,110 --> 00:25:10,240
order for these

734
00:25:14,630 --> 00:25:13,120
uh you know these these forces to kind

735
00:25:17,510 --> 00:25:14,640
of claim our

736
00:25:18,149 --> 00:25:17,520
reality we have to accept them we have

737
00:25:21,350 --> 00:25:18,159
to

738
00:25:23,430 --> 00:25:21,360
take that forbidden fruit uh so i'm kind

739
00:25:24,710 --> 00:25:23,440
of getting this like whole vibe of we

740
00:25:26,390 --> 00:25:24,720
have to be conscious and you're saying

741
00:25:28,549 --> 00:25:26,400
like yeah we have to be aware

742
00:25:30,070 --> 00:25:28,559
which that is just elevates your comp uh

743
00:25:32,630 --> 00:25:30,080
consciousness and being just

744
00:25:33,830 --> 00:25:32,640
you know aware uh i'm just saying the

745
00:25:35,990 --> 00:25:33,840
word aware a bunch but

746
00:25:37,190 --> 00:25:36,000
uh i get what are your thoughts on on

747
00:25:40,310 --> 00:25:37,200
the the uh

748
00:25:43,590 --> 00:25:40,320
the relationship of consciousness versus

749
00:25:46,149 --> 00:25:43,600
physical is it have have these messages

750
00:25:48,070 --> 00:25:46,159
spoke anything to that that that aspect

751
00:25:51,029 --> 00:25:48,080
of of of consciousness

752
00:25:51,510 --> 00:25:51,039
oh hugely and and the new message the

753
00:25:58,310 --> 00:25:51,520
the

754
00:26:00,390 --> 00:25:58,320
on summers is entirely about that

755
00:26:02,310 --> 00:26:00,400
it is basically teaching that there is a

756
00:26:04,789 --> 00:26:02,320
deeper spiritual mind within us

757
00:26:05,990 --> 00:26:04,799
and that the closer we are to that the

758
00:26:08,310 --> 00:26:06,000
more connected the more

759
00:26:10,149 --> 00:26:08,320
it is able to influence our thinking and

760
00:26:12,870 --> 00:26:10,159
to guide us in life

761
00:26:14,470 --> 00:26:12,880
the more protected our minds will be

762
00:26:15,190 --> 00:26:14,480
from any form of manipulation or

763
00:26:17,590 --> 00:26:15,200
influence

764
00:26:19,909 --> 00:26:17,600
whether it's human or extraterrestrial

765
00:26:21,350 --> 00:26:19,919
and our minds will literally not be the

766
00:26:23,269 --> 00:26:21,360
soil in which the seeds of the

767
00:26:25,510 --> 00:26:23,279
intervention can grow

768
00:26:27,750 --> 00:26:25,520
and and they will move on they will

769
00:26:30,390 --> 00:26:27,760
because the minds of this world are not

770
00:26:32,310 --> 00:26:30,400
at that naive they are not willing to

771
00:26:34,390 --> 00:26:32,320
associate anyone who shows up

772
00:26:35,510 --> 00:26:34,400
at their door with a savior so

773
00:26:38,149 --> 00:26:35,520
automatically

774
00:26:39,190 --> 00:26:38,159
and and with the suspension of disbelief

775
00:26:42,390 --> 00:26:39,200
right

776
00:26:44,549 --> 00:26:42,400
um these the the mind

777
00:26:46,630 --> 00:26:44,559
is the soil in which the intervention is

778
00:26:50,070 --> 00:26:46,640
working and gardening and growing

779
00:26:51,190 --> 00:26:50,080
things right now so i was just thinking

780
00:26:53,750 --> 00:26:51,200
you know before we

781
00:26:54,870 --> 00:26:53,760
started our conversation together how

782
00:26:56,950 --> 00:26:54,880
one of the activities of the

783
00:26:59,269 --> 00:26:56,960
intervention is to associate

784
00:27:00,710 --> 00:26:59,279
the symbology of an extraterrestrial to

785
00:27:04,549 --> 00:27:00,720
face the craft

786
00:27:06,310 --> 00:27:04,559
with positive things with with salvation

787
00:27:08,630 --> 00:27:06,320
with spirituality with

788
00:27:09,830 --> 00:27:08,640
indigo children our precious little

789
00:27:11,669 --> 00:27:09,840
children right

790
00:27:13,590 --> 00:27:11,679
to associate to associate because they

791
00:27:16,070 --> 00:27:13,600
know the mind is associative it's

792
00:27:17,029 --> 00:27:16,080
when then you see that face you will

793
00:27:19,269 --> 00:27:17,039
think

794
00:27:20,070 --> 00:27:19,279
positive things you will associate the

795
00:27:21,590 --> 00:27:20,080
benefit

796
00:27:24,070 --> 00:27:21,600
that you would want for your own life

797
00:27:26,549 --> 00:27:24,080
right they don't want

798
00:27:27,510 --> 00:27:26,559
that face to be associated with the

799
00:27:34,149 --> 00:27:27,520
images of

800
00:27:36,310 --> 00:27:34,159
so they are very carefully stewarding

801
00:27:38,389 --> 00:27:36,320
the messaging in our world regarding

802
00:27:39,990 --> 00:27:38,399
them and all the while they are

803
00:27:42,710 --> 00:27:40,000
associating negative things

804
00:27:43,510 --> 00:27:42,720
conflict war pestilence corruption with

805
00:27:45,750 --> 00:27:43,520
us

806
00:27:47,190 --> 00:27:45,760
so now when you see a human politician

807
00:27:49,190 --> 00:27:47,200
you think corruption when you see an

808
00:27:52,549 --> 00:27:49,200
extraterrestrial face you think savior

809
00:27:53,590 --> 00:27:52,559
right and and so this is in essence

810
00:27:57,029 --> 00:27:53,600
mental warfare

811
00:27:59,750 --> 00:27:57,039
it's a more elevated form of combat and

812
00:28:01,269 --> 00:27:59,760
we are very weak mentally as a race

813
00:28:02,470 --> 00:28:01,279
we've only ever dealt with each other

814
00:28:04,070 --> 00:28:02,480
we've never had to deal with another

815
00:28:05,669 --> 00:28:04,080
form of intelligent life which would be

816
00:28:09,190 --> 00:28:05,679
extraordinarily demanding

817
00:28:11,510 --> 00:28:09,200
the allies talk about that and so

818
00:28:14,149 --> 00:28:11,520
we tend to think alike we tend to react

819
00:28:17,430 --> 00:28:14,159
alike and in very predictable ways

820
00:28:20,389 --> 00:28:17,440
and our our minds are like

821
00:28:20,789 --> 00:28:20,399
are like open soil for anything to grow

822
00:28:23,110 --> 00:28:20,799
and

823
00:28:24,149 --> 00:28:23,120
who who would believe weeds are growing

824
00:28:27,269 --> 00:28:24,159
in this soil

825
00:28:29,350 --> 00:28:27,279
so the the consciousness factor is key

826
00:28:31,269 --> 00:28:29,360
how connected are we to this spiritual

827
00:28:34,950 --> 00:28:31,279
mind of knowledge within us

828
00:28:39,110 --> 00:28:34,960
yeah how aware are we of our planetary

829
00:28:41,909 --> 00:28:39,120
existence and our human citizenship

830
00:28:43,669 --> 00:28:41,919
how identified are we with tribes

831
00:28:46,549 --> 00:28:43,679
nations groups versus

832
00:28:48,310 --> 00:28:46,559
being a part of a human family this is

833
00:28:49,669 --> 00:28:48,320
awareness you could say or level of

834
00:28:50,389 --> 00:28:49,679
consciousness it's what are you

835
00:28:54,070 --> 00:28:50,399
conscious

836
00:28:56,549 --> 00:28:54,080
of and how connected to reality is that

837
00:28:57,269 --> 00:28:56,559
so the more reality based we become and

838
00:28:59,510 --> 00:28:57,279
and

839
00:29:01,750 --> 00:28:59,520
the more broad a reality we are living

840
00:29:03,350 --> 00:29:01,760
within larger context you could say our

841
00:29:04,950 --> 00:29:03,360
consciousness is growing

842
00:29:07,350 --> 00:29:04,960
and when that happens the intervention

843
00:29:10,870 --> 00:29:07,360
cannot function here wow wow

844
00:29:12,870 --> 00:29:10,880
so i guess so with your your father

845
00:29:16,070 --> 00:29:12,880
receiving these messages

846
00:29:19,430 --> 00:29:16,080
and we're dealing with

847
00:29:22,149 --> 00:29:19,440
uh you know alien contact

848
00:29:24,549 --> 00:29:22,159
has i don't know if you can answer this

849
00:29:27,909 --> 00:29:24,559
but has anybody in your organization

850
00:29:28,870 --> 00:29:27,919
or you or your father has anybody been

851
00:29:31,990 --> 00:29:28,880
contacted

852
00:29:35,590 --> 00:29:32,000
by maybe some alphabet agency

853
00:29:37,269 --> 00:29:35,600
of sorts wanting to know information

854
00:29:39,430 --> 00:29:37,279
that you guys might have

855
00:29:41,029 --> 00:29:39,440
or or anything like that because it

856
00:29:43,190 --> 00:29:41,039
seems like in this field

857
00:29:44,230 --> 00:29:43,200
people who acquire certain types of

858
00:29:46,310 --> 00:29:44,240
information

859
00:29:48,149 --> 00:29:46,320
usually get a little visit from somebody

860
00:29:50,389 --> 00:29:48,159
a little visit yeah

861
00:29:51,430 --> 00:29:50,399
yeah yeah it's happened a few times yes

862
00:29:53,990 --> 00:29:51,440
ah

863
00:29:54,870 --> 00:29:54,000
and so co so kind of in my head what i'm

864
00:29:58,230 --> 00:29:54,880
thinking is

865
00:30:01,430 --> 00:29:58,240
you know for 70 plus years you know

866
00:30:03,990 --> 00:30:01,440
the the the powers that be

867
00:30:05,750 --> 00:30:04,000
have have kind of you know lied and

868
00:30:07,430 --> 00:30:05,760
shrugged this whole thing off and

869
00:30:08,870 --> 00:30:07,440
basically said you know aliens aren't

870
00:30:11,990 --> 00:30:08,880
real and this and that

871
00:30:14,230 --> 00:30:12,000
it kind of makes me wonder if maybe the

872
00:30:18,470 --> 00:30:14,240
people that have been lying all along

873
00:30:20,470 --> 00:30:18,480
actually maybe knew a little bit

874
00:30:22,470 --> 00:30:20,480
about what you're talking about and

875
00:30:25,430 --> 00:30:22,480
instead of coming out and saying

876
00:30:26,310 --> 00:30:25,440
aliens are real they just thought it was

877
00:30:28,470 --> 00:30:26,320
easier to

878
00:30:29,669 --> 00:30:28,480
chalk it off as as fake and make the

879
00:30:33,029 --> 00:30:29,679
public believe it's fake

880
00:30:35,590 --> 00:30:33,039
because if we are um if we do have to

881
00:30:36,230 --> 00:30:35,600
invite them in in order for them to come

882
00:30:38,789 --> 00:30:36,240
here

883
00:30:40,789 --> 00:30:38,799
you know it's it's easier to not invite

884
00:30:43,590 --> 00:30:40,799
them if people just think it's all fake

885
00:30:44,549 --> 00:30:43,600
you know right yeah right that's a

886
00:30:46,630 --> 00:30:44,559
really good point

887
00:30:47,830 --> 00:30:46,640
yeah i love that and i i kind of have a

888
00:30:49,909 --> 00:30:47,840
follow-up uh

889
00:30:51,269 --> 00:30:49,919
question read uh so i know our our

890
00:30:52,149 --> 00:30:51,279
listeners will probably have the same

891
00:30:54,310 --> 00:30:52,159
question but

892
00:30:55,830 --> 00:30:54,320
uh is i know we've gotten really far

893
00:30:58,549 --> 00:30:55,840
down the this uh

894
00:30:59,430 --> 00:30:58,559
uh journey but i kind of wanna if you

895
00:31:02,389 --> 00:30:59,440
will like just

896
00:31:04,070 --> 00:31:02,399
visualize how this uh you your father

897
00:31:05,909 --> 00:31:04,080
had these messages could you explain

898
00:31:07,190 --> 00:31:05,919
a little bit i'm just really curious in

899
00:31:10,549 --> 00:31:07,200
the details like

900
00:31:13,110 --> 00:31:10,559
was it a uh an experience was he uh

901
00:31:13,750 --> 00:31:13,120
was he visited physically by entities or

902
00:31:18,070 --> 00:31:13,760
was this

903
00:31:18,710 --> 00:31:18,080
uh in his mind kind of thing could you

904
00:31:20,950 --> 00:31:18,720
maybe

905
00:31:22,470 --> 00:31:20,960
uh explain a little bit about that yeah

906
00:31:24,549 --> 00:31:22,480
sure big time story there

907
00:31:25,990 --> 00:31:24,559
and i don't have time to tell it all but

908
00:31:27,029 --> 00:31:26,000
maybe yeah maybe just hopefully we'll

909
00:31:29,590 --> 00:31:27,039
write a book

910
00:31:31,590 --> 00:31:29,600
well worthy of a great book okay uh

911
00:31:32,630 --> 00:31:31,600
story of my father and how this all

912
00:31:35,830 --> 00:31:32,640
happened but

913
00:31:37,590 --> 00:31:35,840
i can give it in brief um basically he

914
00:31:39,190 --> 00:31:37,600
was

915
00:31:40,950 --> 00:31:39,200
working as a special educator for the

916
00:31:42,870 --> 00:31:40,960
blind and begin

917
00:31:44,870 --> 00:31:42,880
began to tune into this this voice

918
00:31:47,110 --> 00:31:44,880
experience in how to work with these

919
00:31:48,470 --> 00:31:47,120
you know severely challenged young

920
00:31:50,950 --> 00:31:48,480
individuals

921
00:31:51,830 --> 00:31:50,960
this voice experience wasn't just his

922
00:31:54,070 --> 00:31:51,840
higher self

923
00:31:55,430 --> 00:31:54,080
it wasn't just you know a deeper aspect

924
00:31:58,230 --> 00:31:55,440
of his own brain

925
00:32:00,950 --> 00:31:58,240
it became angelic it became it became

926
00:32:03,509 --> 00:32:00,960
some sort of communication from

927
00:32:04,950 --> 00:32:03,519
what he now feels is an angelic source

928
00:32:06,710 --> 00:32:04,960
that would begin to guide him and how to

929
00:32:10,070 --> 00:32:06,720
work with people

930
00:32:12,070 --> 00:32:10,080
that angelic source then directed him to

931
00:32:13,590 --> 00:32:12,080
leave his work suddenly

932
00:32:15,110 --> 00:32:13,600
it moved him here it moved him there it

933
00:32:16,870 --> 00:32:15,120
had him wander in the desert for nine

934
00:32:17,430 --> 00:32:16,880
months and after nine months it came to

935
00:32:23,509 --> 00:32:17,440
him

936
00:32:24,630 --> 00:32:23,519
and like earth-shattering encounter that

937
00:32:26,470 --> 00:32:24,640
he would be called

938
00:32:28,470 --> 00:32:26,480
to receive a series of messages for the

939
00:32:31,190 --> 00:32:28,480
world related to

940
00:32:32,310 --> 00:32:31,200
our world's emergence into what it calls

941
00:32:33,990 --> 00:32:32,320
the greater community

942
00:32:35,669 --> 00:32:34,000
the universe in which we live that's

943
00:32:37,269 --> 00:32:35,679
what that means

944
00:32:39,590 --> 00:32:37,279
that was the beginning of the new

945
00:32:41,590 --> 00:32:39,600
message that was in 1983

946
00:32:43,110 --> 00:32:41,600
and in the years since marshall has

947
00:32:46,310 --> 00:32:43,120
received

948
00:32:48,310 --> 00:32:46,320
somewhere close to six seven thousand

949
00:32:51,990 --> 00:32:48,320
pages of this communication

950
00:32:55,110 --> 00:32:52,000
wow which yes i know it is wow

951
00:32:57,590 --> 00:32:55,120
it is we're wow guys we say wow a lot

952
00:32:58,710 --> 00:32:57,600
but that is very that's that's i do too

953
00:33:00,630 --> 00:32:58,720
and i i read

954
00:33:01,990 --> 00:33:00,640
these texts frequently and and they're

955
00:33:03,029 --> 00:33:02,000
now being published into books we

956
00:33:05,750 --> 00:33:03,039
actually have a

957
00:33:06,310 --> 00:33:05,760
one of these one of these communications

958
00:33:07,909 --> 00:33:06,320
a book

959
00:33:10,149 --> 00:33:07,919
is being published this july called

960
00:33:13,029 --> 00:33:10,159
preparing for the greater community

961
00:33:13,590 --> 00:33:13,039
it was received over 20 years ago and it

962
00:33:16,950 --> 00:33:13,600
is an ent

963
00:33:19,029 --> 00:33:16,960
it is a you know an entire expose

964
00:33:20,950 --> 00:33:19,039
of the nature of life beyond our world

965
00:33:21,750 --> 00:33:20,960
how the human race needs to prepare for

966
00:33:25,029 --> 00:33:21,760
it

967
00:33:28,549 --> 00:33:25,039
um the inner preparation at the mental

968
00:33:30,789 --> 00:33:28,559
the psychological the spiritual level

969
00:33:32,230 --> 00:33:30,799
for the individual so it's just a huge

970
00:33:34,470 --> 00:33:32,240
message and

971
00:33:36,310 --> 00:33:34,480
it was halfway into this process of

972
00:33:37,590 --> 00:33:36,320
receiving this divine or angelic

973
00:33:40,630 --> 00:33:37,600
communication

974
00:33:42,230 --> 00:33:40,640
that marshall was told he would be

975
00:33:44,389 --> 00:33:42,240
receiving another communication from

976
00:33:45,430 --> 00:33:44,399
another source entirely

977
00:33:47,830 --> 00:33:45,440
and that this would be an

978
00:33:50,630 --> 00:33:47,840
extraterrestrial communication

979
00:33:52,389 --> 00:33:50,640
a communication by a group of

980
00:33:55,190 --> 00:33:52,399
individuals who were actually

981
00:33:56,950 --> 00:33:55,200
called to come to our world by the exact

982
00:33:58,789 --> 00:33:56,960
angelic presence that was

983
00:34:00,149 --> 00:33:58,799
delivering the new message from god

984
00:34:00,950 --> 00:34:00,159
which was which is what marshall was

985
00:34:04,310 --> 00:34:00,960
receiving

986
00:34:06,870 --> 00:34:04,320
why would that be well because

987
00:34:08,310 --> 00:34:06,880
the divine the angelic they work in our

988
00:34:11,109 --> 00:34:08,320
world they work in the universe

989
00:34:11,990 --> 00:34:11,119
they see a need on earth they saw a need

990
00:34:14,310 --> 00:34:12,000
for

991
00:34:15,909 --> 00:34:14,320
others in our local region who knew what

992
00:34:17,270 --> 00:34:15,919
we had been through

993
00:34:18,470 --> 00:34:17,280
i'm sorry who knew what we would be

994
00:34:19,750 --> 00:34:18,480
going through because they had been

995
00:34:21,829 --> 00:34:19,760
through it to come out

996
00:34:24,550 --> 00:34:21,839
and extend a hand to us and tell them

997
00:34:26,710 --> 00:34:24,560
what they tell us what they knew

998
00:34:28,310 --> 00:34:26,720
and that culminated in the allies of

999
00:34:30,909 --> 00:34:28,320
humanity briefings

1000
00:34:32,710 --> 00:34:30,919
which were which began to be received in

1001
00:34:37,510 --> 00:34:32,720
1997

1002
00:34:40,389 --> 00:34:37,520
and the way this all happened marshall

1003
00:34:41,669 --> 00:34:40,399
was in a sense in in all of these

1004
00:34:43,750 --> 00:34:41,679
revelation events

1005
00:34:45,430 --> 00:34:43,760
uh and there are hundreds of them all ta

1006
00:34:47,190 --> 00:34:45,440
all audio recorded by the way you can

1007
00:34:49,190 --> 00:34:47,200
listen to the original event

1008
00:34:50,869 --> 00:34:49,200
the original voice that spoke through

1009
00:34:52,750 --> 00:34:50,879
it's all up on the uh

1010
00:34:53,909 --> 00:34:52,760
the new message website at

1011
00:34:57,190 --> 00:34:53,919
newmessage.org

1012
00:35:00,630 --> 00:34:57,200
these audio recordings he would be

1013
00:35:03,829 --> 00:35:00,640
in essence overtaken by this

1014
00:35:04,470 --> 00:35:03,839
higher power wow and it would use his

1015
00:35:07,750 --> 00:35:04,480
voice

1016
00:35:10,069 --> 00:35:07,760
to speak this message and he had no idea

1017
00:35:11,750 --> 00:35:10,079
often what would be spoken it would be

1018
00:35:13,349 --> 00:35:11,760
in a voice not his own

1019
00:35:15,589 --> 00:35:13,359
this is you will hear these audio

1020
00:35:17,349 --> 00:35:15,599
recordings this is not my father's voice

1021
00:35:20,710 --> 00:35:17,359
this is another voice

1022
00:35:23,030 --> 00:35:20,720
and when this voice was over marshall

1023
00:35:23,750 --> 00:35:23,040
often would feel like he did a day's

1024
00:35:28,230 --> 00:35:23,760
work

1025
00:35:30,550 --> 00:35:28,240
minutes exhausted

1026
00:35:31,510 --> 00:35:30,560
so yeah and he would not he would not

1027
00:35:33,750 --> 00:35:31,520
know what they said

1028
00:35:35,430 --> 00:35:33,760
exactly it was only after listening to

1029
00:35:37,349 --> 00:35:35,440
it or reading the transcript that that

1030
00:35:39,589 --> 00:35:37,359
we would see what was spoken

1031
00:35:40,710 --> 00:35:39,599
and what was spoken is just crystal

1032
00:35:43,670 --> 00:35:40,720
clear

1033
00:35:44,710 --> 00:35:43,680
communication hundreds thousands of

1034
00:35:46,550 --> 00:35:44,720
pages of

1035
00:35:47,910 --> 00:35:46,560
of a message really prepare trying to

1036
00:35:50,550 --> 00:35:47,920
prepare our world

1037
00:35:51,910 --> 00:35:50,560
for this event of contact so at this

1038
00:35:54,470 --> 00:35:51,920
point i'm thinking like

1039
00:35:55,750 --> 00:35:54,480
wow that's uh amazing number one but

1040
00:35:58,390 --> 00:35:55,760
number two like

1041
00:35:58,950 --> 00:35:58,400
i'm thinking okay my cynical part is oh

1042
00:36:01,030 --> 00:35:58,960
oh

1043
00:36:02,870 --> 00:36:01,040
so are you guys just trying to like sell

1044
00:36:04,630 --> 00:36:02,880
this idea but you guys are just giving

1045
00:36:06,550 --> 00:36:04,640
all this stuff away like

1046
00:36:07,670 --> 00:36:06,560
you're not you're not trying to profit

1047
00:36:09,270 --> 00:36:07,680
off of this thing that's the most

1048
00:36:12,150 --> 00:36:09,280
beautiful part about it

1049
00:36:12,710 --> 00:36:12,160
i mean we make all the books all the

1050
00:36:15,670 --> 00:36:12,720
books

1051
00:36:17,670 --> 00:36:15,680
free online yeah and this this message

1052
00:36:19,430 --> 00:36:17,680
is being translated into over 30

1053
00:36:20,470 --> 00:36:19,440
languages and all of that goes free

1054
00:36:23,670 --> 00:36:20,480
online

1055
00:36:25,430 --> 00:36:23,680
once the translation is done and

1056
00:36:27,270 --> 00:36:25,440
yes we do have books for sale because

1057
00:36:29,270 --> 00:36:27,280
books cost money to make but

1058
00:36:30,390 --> 00:36:29,280
the text the core communication the

1059
00:36:32,310 --> 00:36:30,400
audio

1060
00:36:34,150 --> 00:36:32,320
that we have is free online right and

1061
00:36:38,150 --> 00:36:34,160
your your newest book the fourth one is

1062
00:36:39,990 --> 00:36:38,160
is 99 cents correct like that's

1063
00:36:41,750 --> 00:36:40,000
well it's a message for earth yeah

1064
00:36:43,190 --> 00:36:41,760
that's the allies of humanity and the

1065
00:36:45,990 --> 00:36:43,200
text is free online too

1066
00:36:46,470 --> 00:36:46,000
and in over a dozen languages so you're

1067
00:36:49,430 --> 00:36:46,480
right

1068
00:36:51,270 --> 00:36:49,440
i mean we're we're not you're not trying

1069
00:36:53,190 --> 00:36:51,280
to make money off of this this is

1070
00:36:54,950 --> 00:36:53,200
this is this i'm what i'm trying to say

1071
00:36:57,589 --> 00:36:54,960
is it seems very genuine

1072
00:36:59,670 --> 00:36:57,599
yeah you know marshall marshall was not

1073
00:37:02,870 --> 00:36:59,680
setting out to do any of this

1074
00:37:05,270 --> 00:37:02,880
this happened to him and he was

1075
00:37:06,230 --> 00:37:05,280
willing to be up to play a part and to

1076
00:37:07,589 --> 00:37:06,240
have this happen

1077
00:37:09,430 --> 00:37:07,599
in the center of his life in the center

1078
00:37:11,910 --> 00:37:09,440
of our family you know

1079
00:37:13,589 --> 00:37:11,920
we're not out there to make you know to

1080
00:37:17,030 --> 00:37:13,599
make dollars or to make a name

1081
00:37:19,829 --> 00:37:17,040
or to influence people we're we're

1082
00:37:21,829 --> 00:37:19,839
we are the recipients of this amazing

1083
00:37:22,630 --> 00:37:21,839
communication for planet earth and it is

1084
00:37:26,230 --> 00:37:22,640
our

1085
00:37:27,670 --> 00:37:26,240
people yeah

1086
00:37:29,990 --> 00:37:27,680
that's why i'm spending my evening with

1087
00:37:30,870 --> 00:37:30,000
you guys exactly yeah and to contribute

1088
00:37:34,310 --> 00:37:30,880
this and

1089
00:37:34,630 --> 00:37:34,320
resonates good if it doesn't that's okay

1090
00:37:37,829 --> 00:37:34,640
too

1091
00:37:39,829 --> 00:37:37,839
and uh it's a gift one of the one of the

1092
00:37:42,790 --> 00:37:39,839
things that kind of stuck out in my mind

1093
00:37:44,630 --> 00:37:42,800
uh is you know when you're talking about

1094
00:37:47,030 --> 00:37:44,640
your father and how he was kind of

1095
00:37:48,790 --> 00:37:47,040
pulled away from his regular life and

1096
00:37:51,030 --> 00:37:48,800
you know spent these nine months in the

1097
00:37:51,510 --> 00:37:51,040
desert you know a couple things come to

1098
00:37:54,630 --> 00:37:51,520
mind

1099
00:37:56,069 --> 00:37:54,640
you know like one people like like moses

1100
00:37:56,950 --> 00:37:56,079
you know you have all these biblical

1101
00:37:59,829 --> 00:37:56,960
characters

1102
00:38:00,950 --> 00:37:59,839
you know even even uh you know like like

1103
00:38:03,430 --> 00:38:00,960
muhammad or

1104
00:38:04,470 --> 00:38:03,440
or all these like certain figures

1105
00:38:07,670 --> 00:38:04,480
throughout history

1106
00:38:08,790 --> 00:38:07,680
who who who apparently have received

1107
00:38:12,230 --> 00:38:08,800
messages

1108
00:38:13,990 --> 00:38:12,240
um and they seem to come like you know a

1109
00:38:17,190 --> 00:38:14,000
few thousand years apart

1110
00:38:19,589 --> 00:38:17,200
from each other um every now and then

1111
00:38:20,470 --> 00:38:19,599
there's somebody who receives these

1112
00:38:23,510 --> 00:38:20,480
messages

1113
00:38:26,870 --> 00:38:23,520
from from god do you think maybe

1114
00:38:27,589 --> 00:38:26,880
your father is just maybe the next in

1115
00:38:29,670 --> 00:38:27,599
line

1116
00:38:31,430 --> 00:38:29,680
and you know these these characters they

1117
00:38:33,510 --> 00:38:31,440
all seem to have been

1118
00:38:35,270 --> 00:38:33,520
uh you know unsuspecting of what was

1119
00:38:35,670 --> 00:38:35,280
happening and they were very surprised

1120
00:38:37,349 --> 00:38:35,680
that

1121
00:38:39,190 --> 00:38:37,359
well i'm just started to receive these

1122
00:38:39,589 --> 00:38:39,200
messages i don't know anything about it

1123
00:38:42,150 --> 00:38:39,599
but

1124
00:38:43,750 --> 00:38:42,160
i you know it seems to be good maybe we

1125
00:38:45,430 --> 00:38:43,760
should write this down and tell the

1126
00:38:46,870 --> 00:38:45,440
people about it you know

1127
00:38:49,270 --> 00:38:46,880
you know is that kind of maybe something

1128
00:38:49,990 --> 00:38:49,280
that yes happens that is what has

1129
00:38:53,910 --> 00:38:50,000
happened

1130
00:38:54,870 --> 00:38:53,920
here that that kind of uh angelic or

1131
00:38:57,990 --> 00:38:54,880
divine event

1132
00:39:00,310 --> 00:38:58,000
that that individual chosen uh

1133
00:39:01,829 --> 00:39:00,320
having their life blown up yeah you know

1134
00:39:04,710 --> 00:39:01,839
having having this

1135
00:39:05,349 --> 00:39:04,720
huge thing happen through them that was

1136
00:39:07,990 --> 00:39:05,359
challenging

1137
00:39:09,190 --> 00:39:08,000
and threatening and you know not what

1138
00:39:11,030 --> 00:39:09,200
they had in mind

1139
00:39:12,870 --> 00:39:11,040
and that has that is exactly what has

1140
00:39:14,870 --> 00:39:12,880
happened to marshall v on summers

1141
00:39:16,310 --> 00:39:14,880
and as his son having been at the center

1142
00:39:19,589 --> 00:39:16,320
of my family for

1143
00:39:23,030 --> 00:39:19,599
my 35 years i have seen

1144
00:39:25,910 --> 00:39:23,040
this process it is amazing it is

1145
00:39:27,510 --> 00:39:25,920
one of these great stories and one of

1146
00:39:31,109 --> 00:39:27,520
these events that brings

1147
00:39:33,030 --> 00:39:31,119
a huge infusion of truth and spiritual

1148
00:39:36,310 --> 00:39:33,040
power into the world

1149
00:39:36,950 --> 00:39:36,320
all all around a huge evolutionary

1150
00:39:39,829 --> 00:39:36,960
threshold

1151
00:39:41,670 --> 00:39:39,839
you know something really necessary and

1152
00:39:43,670 --> 00:39:41,680
most people don't know about that yet

1153
00:39:45,270 --> 00:39:43,680
but they will in the in the years and

1154
00:39:46,390 --> 00:39:45,280
decades ahead they will know that our

1155
00:39:48,390 --> 00:39:46,400
world is being visited

1156
00:39:50,390 --> 00:39:48,400
right and that will change everything

1157
00:39:53,829 --> 00:39:50,400
that is the greatest event in history

1158
00:39:56,069 --> 00:39:53,839
and that god would speak again that a

1159
00:39:58,950 --> 00:39:56,079
messenger would be chosen to receive

1160
00:40:00,310 --> 00:39:58,960
that message it makes sense right you

1161
00:40:01,910 --> 00:40:00,320
know it's like yeah

1162
00:40:03,430 --> 00:40:01,920
it's like yeah we would need something

1163
00:40:07,270 --> 00:40:03,440
like that for something

1164
00:40:09,990 --> 00:40:07,280
as big as this so usually when

1165
00:40:10,630 --> 00:40:10,000
when people talk about aliens uh you

1166
00:40:12,630 --> 00:40:10,640
know there's

1167
00:40:14,390 --> 00:40:12,640
there's you know i i would say there's a

1168
00:40:17,990 --> 00:40:14,400
lot of nuts and bolts

1169
00:40:20,309 --> 00:40:18,000
kind of science people uh you know

1170
00:40:21,430 --> 00:40:20,319
then you got you get into the realm of

1171
00:40:23,430 --> 00:40:21,440
like well there's like these

1172
00:40:26,630 --> 00:40:23,440
spirituality aspects

1173
00:40:28,870 --> 00:40:26,640
of these et interventions uh but one

1174
00:40:32,150 --> 00:40:28,880
thing i i don't hear very often

1175
00:40:35,030 --> 00:40:32,160
uh is this connection between

1176
00:40:35,510 --> 00:40:35,040
god we're using the word god right and

1177
00:40:38,630 --> 00:40:35,520
and

1178
00:40:42,470 --> 00:40:38,640
the extraterrestrials right what is this

1179
00:40:46,030 --> 00:40:42,480
this god extraterrestrial connection

1180
00:40:48,470 --> 00:40:46,040
and so is god giving these

1181
00:40:50,550 --> 00:40:48,480
extraterrestrials the same message

1182
00:40:53,430 --> 00:40:50,560
and he's also giving your father these

1183
00:40:54,390 --> 00:40:53,440
messages and the allies are just kind of

1184
00:40:57,349 --> 00:40:54,400
there to

1185
00:40:59,670 --> 00:40:57,359
back it up and help the move the process

1186
00:41:02,790 --> 00:40:59,680
along

1187
00:41:04,870 --> 00:41:02,800
yeah it's it's i know it's uh it's a big

1188
00:41:06,470 --> 00:41:04,880
thing to consider that god and

1189
00:41:07,670 --> 00:41:06,480
extraterrestrial contact would be

1190
00:41:09,990 --> 00:41:07,680
connected

1191
00:41:11,589 --> 00:41:10,000
um but they are i mean the universe in

1192
00:41:14,630 --> 00:41:11,599
which we live

1193
00:41:17,589 --> 00:41:14,640
is what god created and believe me

1194
00:41:18,230 --> 00:41:17,599
humanity is not at the center and that i

1195
00:41:21,270 --> 00:41:18,240
know that's a

1196
00:41:26,309 --> 00:41:25,349
the new message from god is a revelation

1197
00:41:29,349 --> 00:41:26,319
about god

1198
00:41:31,349 --> 00:41:29,359
in this larger universe what god created

1199
00:41:32,470 --> 00:41:31,359
where we fit in it what is the plan for

1200
00:41:35,030 --> 00:41:32,480
humanity

1201
00:41:37,109 --> 00:41:35,040
who am i who am i the individual alive

1202
00:41:40,630 --> 00:41:37,119
as a human being today all of that

1203
00:41:41,750 --> 00:41:40,640
is is very extensively addressed in the

1204
00:41:43,829 --> 00:41:41,760
new message

1205
00:41:45,270 --> 00:41:43,839
and it makes sense because as you come

1206
00:41:48,309 --> 00:41:45,280
into contact

1207
00:41:50,230 --> 00:41:48,319
with the environment that is

1208
00:41:52,069 --> 00:41:50,240
billions of times bigger than you ever

1209
00:41:53,270 --> 00:41:52,079
thought it was around you this

1210
00:41:56,630 --> 00:41:53,280
environment we live in

1211
00:42:00,829 --> 00:41:56,640
it's going to totally change our notions

1212
00:42:03,190 --> 00:42:00,839
of origin destiny

1213
00:42:04,069 --> 00:42:03,200
redemption you know spiritual

1214
00:42:07,430 --> 00:42:04,079
spirituality

1215
00:42:08,470 --> 00:42:07,440
soul everything so you know here we're

1216
00:42:11,030 --> 00:42:08,480
experiencing this

1217
00:42:12,309 --> 00:42:11,040
this prosaic event contact with other

1218
00:42:14,710 --> 00:42:12,319
physical forms of life

1219
00:42:16,150 --> 00:42:14,720
in the universe and we're receiving a

1220
00:42:18,069 --> 00:42:16,160
communication from god

1221
00:42:19,910 --> 00:42:18,079
because we are spiritual beings

1222
00:42:22,390 --> 00:42:19,920
undergoing contact

1223
00:42:23,829 --> 00:42:22,400
and in truth what is the universe well

1224
00:42:26,870 --> 00:42:23,839
the universe

1225
00:42:29,270 --> 00:42:26,880
is what god created to allow those

1226
00:42:30,309 --> 00:42:29,280
who wanted to be apart from god to

1227
00:42:33,670 --> 00:42:30,319
experience

1228
00:42:35,349 --> 00:42:33,680
you know free will yeah to create

1229
00:42:36,790 --> 00:42:35,359
that's what the universe is that's what

1230
00:42:39,910 --> 00:42:36,800
the new message says

1231
00:42:42,309 --> 00:42:39,920
uh about it and and so as we as we

1232
00:42:43,990 --> 00:42:42,319
undergo contact we're also

1233
00:42:46,470 --> 00:42:44,000
opening up the next chapter in our

1234
00:42:49,190 --> 00:42:46,480
spiritual evolution

1235
00:42:49,589 --> 00:42:49,200
it's it's it's extremely tied in yeah

1236
00:42:51,750 --> 00:42:49,599
and

1237
00:42:52,630 --> 00:42:51,760
our expression as individuals are you

1238
00:42:54,710 --> 00:42:52,640
know who we are

1239
00:42:57,270 --> 00:42:54,720
what we carry the gift we have to offer

1240
00:42:59,349 --> 00:42:57,280
the world the service we have to offer

1241
00:43:00,470 --> 00:42:59,359
for many people it's connected to this

1242
00:43:03,829 --> 00:43:00,480
event

1243
00:43:06,230 --> 00:43:03,839
they will find its expression

1244
00:43:08,470 --> 00:43:06,240
and then that will fulfill them their

1245
00:43:10,710 --> 00:43:08,480
their their presence and manifest life

1246
00:43:12,069 --> 00:43:10,720
right so we're dealing with a physical

1247
00:43:13,990 --> 00:43:12,079
event in contact but

1248
00:43:15,430 --> 00:43:14,000
but it represents the next step

1249
00:43:17,589 --> 00:43:15,440
spiritually for us as well

1250
00:43:18,630 --> 00:43:17,599
it's very important for that reason

1251
00:43:20,950 --> 00:43:18,640
that's great i

1252
00:43:23,030 --> 00:43:20,960
i can't help but but to say this i just

1253
00:43:25,270 --> 00:43:23,040
as you're speaking reid i just had this

1254
00:43:26,870 --> 00:43:25,280
idea like it's kind of a cool idea i'm

1255
00:43:28,630 --> 00:43:26,880
not a very religious person but i do

1256
00:43:30,390 --> 00:43:28,640
believe that there is a god

1257
00:43:31,750 --> 00:43:30,400
and i'm just thinking like man we we

1258
00:43:34,950 --> 00:43:31,760
have i feel like we

1259
00:43:37,990 --> 00:43:34,960
as humanity have this really microscopic

1260
00:43:39,030 --> 00:43:38,000
view of god right like we have the guy

1261
00:43:41,510 --> 00:43:39,040
in the bible right

1262
00:43:43,030 --> 00:43:41,520
uh and he's everywhere and just you know

1263
00:43:44,790 --> 00:43:43,040
he's out he's

1264
00:43:46,390 --> 00:43:44,800
he he's looking out for us or he's

1265
00:43:48,470 --> 00:43:46,400
making things happen and everything has

1266
00:43:50,950 --> 00:43:48,480
a plan but i feel like that's just

1267
00:43:51,910 --> 00:43:50,960
our human little little shell that we've

1268
00:43:54,150 --> 00:43:51,920
made around this

1269
00:43:55,990 --> 00:43:54,160
this thing that's an actual real thing

1270
00:43:58,150 --> 00:43:56,000
and i feel like maybe

1271
00:43:59,510 --> 00:43:58,160
when we go through this process of of

1272
00:44:02,550 --> 00:43:59,520
opening our minds and

1273
00:44:05,030 --> 00:44:02,560
transcending into this human 2.0 as

1274
00:44:07,109 --> 00:44:05,040
we've said a lot in this podcast

1275
00:44:09,270 --> 00:44:07,119
maybe we'll have an a greater

1276
00:44:12,069 --> 00:44:09,280
understanding of the breadth or the

1277
00:44:12,470 --> 00:44:12,079
reach of the understanding of what or

1278
00:44:14,870 --> 00:44:12,480
who

1279
00:44:15,670 --> 00:44:14,880
god is right like we personify things

1280
00:44:17,910 --> 00:44:15,680
but

1281
00:44:19,910 --> 00:44:17,920
absolutely maybe it is just a what yeah

1282
00:44:20,550 --> 00:44:19,920
because i feel like one of the biggest

1283
00:44:23,109 --> 00:44:20,560
things

1284
00:44:25,030 --> 00:44:23,119
is you know a lot of people are becoming

1285
00:44:27,990 --> 00:44:25,040
less and less religious

1286
00:44:30,630 --> 00:44:28,000
um and i i think it's because the

1287
00:44:33,910 --> 00:44:30,640
religions that we have on earth

1288
00:44:34,710 --> 00:44:33,920
have stopped have you know stopped

1289
00:44:38,069 --> 00:44:34,720
growing

1290
00:44:41,670 --> 00:44:38,079
you know they are stuck in the past and

1291
00:44:44,630 --> 00:44:41,680
as we evolve and seek understanding

1292
00:44:45,990 --> 00:44:44,640
there's just certain things that it

1293
00:44:47,990 --> 00:44:46,000
can't explain

1294
00:44:49,349 --> 00:44:48,000
um and one very interesting thing that

1295
00:44:51,510 --> 00:44:49,359
i've heard you say on

1296
00:44:54,069 --> 00:44:51,520
on other shows is you know this isn't

1297
00:44:56,230 --> 00:44:54,079
like uh

1298
00:44:58,470 --> 00:44:56,240
this is this is for uh you know this is

1299
00:44:59,670 --> 00:44:58,480
for christians this is for muslims this

1300
00:45:01,750 --> 00:44:59,680
is for atheists

1301
00:45:05,109 --> 00:45:01,760
this is for everybody it's it's not like

1302
00:45:08,870 --> 00:45:05,119
a religion of sorts it's it's a message

1303
00:45:09,190 --> 00:45:08,880
for humanity exactly this this it is it

1304
00:45:13,829 --> 00:45:09,200
is

1305
00:45:16,550 --> 00:45:13,839
have a religion those who don't

1306
00:45:16,950 --> 00:45:16,560
it's for people in every situation in

1307
00:45:21,589 --> 00:45:16,960
life

1308
00:45:24,230 --> 00:45:21,599
culture religion everything i mean

1309
00:45:25,589 --> 00:45:24,240
this is how when god wants to reach the

1310
00:45:26,870 --> 00:45:25,599
world it doesn't happen through a

1311
00:45:30,069 --> 00:45:26,880
religion only

1312
00:45:30,710 --> 00:45:30,079
right it happens through a message that

1313
00:45:33,109 --> 00:45:30,720
comes

1314
00:45:33,990 --> 00:45:33,119
through revelation through a messenger

1315
00:45:38,069 --> 00:45:34,000
and also

1316
00:45:40,150 --> 00:45:38,079
a message that arises within us

1317
00:45:41,349 --> 00:45:40,160
i mean god god touches us directly i

1318
00:45:42,470 --> 00:45:41,359
mean it doesn't come through an

1319
00:45:45,349 --> 00:45:42,480
intermediary

1320
00:45:46,069 --> 00:45:45,359
you know but occasionally god must speak

1321
00:45:48,309 --> 00:45:46,079
a specific

1322
00:45:49,670 --> 00:45:48,319
message to all people uh and not

1323
00:45:51,030 --> 00:45:49,680
everyone you know seven billion

1324
00:45:53,510 --> 00:45:51,040
different messages

1325
00:45:55,430 --> 00:45:53,520
that are more personal in nature but you

1326
00:45:57,190 --> 00:45:55,440
know this thing about

1327
00:45:58,790 --> 00:45:57,200
about religion and people becoming less

1328
00:46:01,589 --> 00:45:58,800
religious i know and and

1329
00:46:02,790 --> 00:46:01,599
and it makes sense our modern world is

1330
00:46:05,349 --> 00:46:02,800
growing

1331
00:46:07,030 --> 00:46:05,359
and eclipsing the very revelations

1332
00:46:08,390 --> 00:46:07,040
ancient revelations that were given to

1333
00:46:09,910 --> 00:46:08,400
reveal

1334
00:46:12,710 --> 00:46:09,920
you know that that world in which we

1335
00:46:15,990 --> 00:46:12,720
lived something new is needed

1336
00:46:17,829 --> 00:46:16,000
something that doesn't box god in to

1337
00:46:19,030 --> 00:46:17,839
some sort of human projection you know

1338
00:46:22,230 --> 00:46:19,040
of a father

1339
00:46:24,230 --> 00:46:22,240
of a judgmental lord and also doesn't

1340
00:46:28,069 --> 00:46:24,240
make that exclusive to one

1341
00:46:30,790 --> 00:46:28,079
culture one group of people um

1342
00:46:31,589 --> 00:46:30,800
i i i feel many people in the world are

1343
00:46:33,670 --> 00:46:31,599
ready

1344
00:46:35,589 --> 00:46:33,680
for a new message from god that that

1345
00:46:38,309 --> 00:46:35,599
presents a god

1346
00:46:39,829 --> 00:46:38,319
of the universe in which we live

1347
00:46:42,950 --> 00:46:39,839
something more universal

1348
00:46:45,030 --> 00:46:42,960
something more experiential and one of

1349
00:46:48,230 --> 00:46:45,040
the books in the new message

1350
00:46:50,309 --> 00:46:48,240
is called the one god and it presents a

1351
00:46:53,510 --> 00:46:50,319
number of revelations on this topic

1352
00:46:53,910 --> 00:46:53,520
and um and it really it really clarifies

1353
00:46:57,349 --> 00:46:53,920
that

1354
00:47:01,030 --> 00:46:57,359
god is not an individual

1355
00:47:02,870 --> 00:47:01,040
a person a personage a a judgmental

1356
00:47:05,109 --> 00:47:02,880
individual like we would maybe picture

1357
00:47:05,430 --> 00:47:05,119
that that is old that is the god we have

1358
00:47:08,390 --> 00:47:05,440
made

1359
00:47:08,710 --> 00:47:08,400
like personification of things right and

1360
00:47:12,950 --> 00:47:08,720
and

1361
00:47:15,030 --> 00:47:12,960
abused what god has given

1362
00:47:17,349 --> 00:47:15,040
and even the real the authentic stuff

1363
00:47:19,510 --> 00:47:17,359
and we have made god in our image

1364
00:47:21,349 --> 00:47:19,520
we have used god to control others

1365
00:47:23,910 --> 00:47:21,359
people are massively turned off

1366
00:47:25,270 --> 00:47:23,920
from those expressions absolutely um and

1367
00:47:27,190 --> 00:47:25,280
i understand

1368
00:47:28,390 --> 00:47:27,200
and they're also cueing into the fact

1369
00:47:31,589 --> 00:47:28,400
that they're an individual

1370
00:47:33,670 --> 00:47:31,599
they're not just a member of a group um

1371
00:47:34,790 --> 00:47:33,680
you know an automaton you know shaped

1372
00:47:37,430 --> 00:47:34,800
and conditioned

1373
00:47:37,990 --> 00:47:37,440
by by someone else and then they're

1374
00:47:41,030 --> 00:47:38,000
they're seeking

1375
00:47:43,270 --> 00:47:41,040
to understand themselves who am i

1376
00:47:44,870 --> 00:47:43,280
what do i need to do with my life it's a

1377
00:47:47,589 --> 00:47:44,880
unique journey

1378
00:47:49,829 --> 00:47:47,599
and and people don't feel that religion

1379
00:47:52,870 --> 00:47:49,839
contains that journey for them

1380
00:47:54,230 --> 00:47:52,880
i understand um that's why there's a new

1381
00:47:56,230 --> 00:47:54,240
message from god in the world

1382
00:47:58,309 --> 00:47:56,240
yeah because the message is all about

1383
00:48:00,470 --> 00:47:58,319
that journey it is about

1384
00:48:02,150 --> 00:48:00,480
coming home to yourself who you really

1385
00:48:03,750 --> 00:48:02,160
are where you came from

1386
00:48:05,349 --> 00:48:03,760
what you're here to do in the world who

1387
00:48:08,230 --> 00:48:05,359
you're here to meet

1388
00:48:10,150 --> 00:48:08,240
so it's it's it's it's it's like uh wow

1389
00:48:13,190 --> 00:48:10,160
talk about a 2.0

1390
00:48:13,670 --> 00:48:13,200
yeah yeah absolutely 2.0 religion 2.0

1391
00:48:18,790 --> 00:48:13,680
yeah

1392
00:48:20,549 --> 00:48:18,800
you know and for me i mean it's kind of

1393
00:48:20,950 --> 00:48:20,559
it it really does kind of hit home

1394
00:48:24,309 --> 00:48:20,960
because i

1395
00:48:25,109 --> 00:48:24,319
i grew up in a in a extremely catholic

1396
00:48:28,309 --> 00:48:25,119
family

1397
00:48:30,549 --> 00:48:28,319
uh you know nowadays i'm i'm not a

1398
00:48:34,309 --> 00:48:30,559
practicing catholic you know i mean

1399
00:48:36,309 --> 00:48:34,319
you know the the to me

1400
00:48:37,430 --> 00:48:36,319
you know this this church and the

1401
00:48:40,549 --> 00:48:37,440
rituals and

1402
00:48:42,390 --> 00:48:40,559
all this stuff that we do like for god

1403
00:48:44,230 --> 00:48:42,400
and this and that you know

1404
00:48:46,309 --> 00:48:44,240
uh my parents would always say you know

1405
00:48:48,390 --> 00:48:46,319
you need to go to church you know you

1406
00:48:51,750 --> 00:48:48,400
got to do this you got to do that well

1407
00:48:52,630 --> 00:48:51,760
you know to me i could walk down the

1408
00:48:56,069 --> 00:48:52,640
street or

1409
00:48:59,589 --> 00:48:56,079
er in the woods or just wherever and i'm

1410
00:49:01,670 --> 00:48:59,599
i feel like i'm closer to this god or

1411
00:49:02,710 --> 00:49:01,680
source or whatever you want to call it i

1412
00:49:04,950 --> 00:49:02,720
i feel like we

1413
00:49:05,990 --> 00:49:04,960
we use the term god for just lack of a

1414
00:49:08,309 --> 00:49:06,000
better word or

1415
00:49:09,910 --> 00:49:08,319
source on what it is you know source i

1416
00:49:11,990 --> 00:49:09,920
feel closer to that

1417
00:49:13,349 --> 00:49:12,000
you know outside of that building than

1418
00:49:15,829 --> 00:49:13,359
than i ever would

1419
00:49:17,910 --> 00:49:15,839
inside of that building uh and it just

1420
00:49:20,150 --> 00:49:17,920
it doesn't uh it just doesn't

1421
00:49:21,910 --> 00:49:20,160
resonate with me uh there was another

1422
00:49:22,710 --> 00:49:21,920
really interesting thing that you had

1423
00:49:24,790 --> 00:49:22,720
said that

1424
00:49:25,990 --> 00:49:24,800
uh you know it's strange because

1425
00:49:27,910 --> 00:49:26,000
everything that that

1426
00:49:29,589 --> 00:49:27,920
i've looked through the site you know i

1427
00:49:30,390 --> 00:49:29,599
have some of the literature from you

1428
00:49:33,109 --> 00:49:30,400
guys

1429
00:49:35,190 --> 00:49:33,119
um it and it it really does kind of like

1430
00:49:38,309 --> 00:49:35,200
it it piqued my interest

1431
00:49:38,950 --> 00:49:38,319
um for sure because you're right it

1432
00:49:42,069 --> 00:49:38,960
doesn't

1433
00:49:45,190 --> 00:49:42,079
box this this god in

1434
00:49:47,589 --> 00:49:45,200
the way that you know our current

1435
00:49:50,630 --> 00:49:47,599
religions and current models

1436
00:49:53,990 --> 00:49:50,640
do it it really kind of opens it up

1437
00:49:55,109 --> 00:49:54,000
uh to being this thing that you know you

1438
00:49:58,630 --> 00:49:55,119
you really

1439
00:49:59,589 --> 00:49:58,640
uh it's bigger than you could ever even

1440
00:50:01,430 --> 00:49:59,599
understand

1441
00:50:04,390 --> 00:50:01,440
you know and you had said in one of your

1442
00:50:07,510 --> 00:50:04,400
videos you had read on this sign

1443
00:50:08,390 --> 00:50:07,520
uh something about jesus the only way to

1444
00:50:10,790 --> 00:50:08,400
god

1445
00:50:12,150 --> 00:50:10,800
right and and you had an issue with that

1446
00:50:14,390 --> 00:50:12,160
and i've always had an

1447
00:50:16,549 --> 00:50:14,400
issue with that i've never felt that i

1448
00:50:17,589 --> 00:50:16,559
had to go through somebody else to be

1449
00:50:19,990 --> 00:50:17,599
close to god

1450
00:50:21,109 --> 00:50:20,000
like if i wanted to talk to god i could

1451
00:50:23,510 --> 00:50:21,119
do it right here

1452
00:50:25,109 --> 00:50:23,520
right now and i don't need you know

1453
00:50:29,670 --> 00:50:25,119
anybody else

1454
00:50:32,549 --> 00:50:29,680
yeah absolutely god is an experience

1455
00:50:33,430 --> 00:50:32,559
you know it's it's it's you and where

1456
00:50:36,150 --> 00:50:33,440
you came from

1457
00:50:37,829 --> 00:50:36,160
it's you and who is with you the unseen

1458
00:50:40,069 --> 00:50:37,839
who is with you

1459
00:50:40,950 --> 00:50:40,079
i i think we need to come back to that

1460
00:50:42,710 --> 00:50:40,960
experience

1461
00:50:44,870 --> 00:50:42,720
i think that's where our power is that's

1462
00:50:45,670 --> 00:50:44,880
where our compassion stems from that's

1463
00:50:48,309 --> 00:50:45,680
where our

1464
00:50:50,150 --> 00:50:48,319
our deeper resources to to live a

1465
00:50:51,750 --> 00:50:50,160
fruitful and purposeful life

1466
00:50:53,670 --> 00:50:51,760
and to serve this world that's going to

1467
00:50:54,549 --> 00:50:53,680
be going through huge challenges in the

1468
00:50:56,470 --> 00:50:54,559
years ahead

1469
00:50:59,510 --> 00:50:56,480
where does that come from is that just

1470
00:51:02,230 --> 00:50:59,520
strong will is that determination is it

1471
00:51:03,349 --> 00:51:02,240
ambition i don't think so i think it's

1472
00:51:06,150 --> 00:51:03,359
an experience

1473
00:51:06,870 --> 00:51:06,160
of a greater life that we are a part of

1474
00:51:08,710 --> 00:51:06,880
and

1475
00:51:10,069 --> 00:51:08,720
you can call that god you can call that

1476
00:51:13,430 --> 00:51:10,079
source that's fine

1477
00:51:15,990 --> 00:51:13,440
um but the new message from god

1478
00:51:16,710 --> 00:51:16,000
is a message from that source that

1479
00:51:20,710 --> 00:51:16,720
presence

1480
00:51:22,309 --> 00:51:20,720
that abiding mind that that underlies

1481
00:51:23,990 --> 00:51:22,319
all life in the universe right and

1482
00:51:27,510 --> 00:51:24,000
supports its

1483
00:51:29,829 --> 00:51:27,520
re reuniting together its return

1484
00:51:31,589 --> 00:51:29,839
back to a unified state and i mean

1485
00:51:33,589 --> 00:51:31,599
that's what the new message

1486
00:51:35,109 --> 00:51:33,599
says it is here to do and where it comes

1487
00:51:37,829 --> 00:51:35,119
from yeah so

1488
00:51:38,470 --> 00:51:37,839
uh so kind of changing gears a little

1489
00:51:41,270 --> 00:51:38,480
bit reid

1490
00:51:42,230 --> 00:51:41,280
uh maybe bringing it into the present a

1491
00:51:45,270 --> 00:51:42,240
little bit with

1492
00:51:46,630 --> 00:51:45,280
some news uh you know the pentagon has

1493
00:51:48,230 --> 00:51:46,640
i don't know if this is way out of left

1494
00:51:48,950 --> 00:51:48,240
field but i kind of just want to see

1495
00:51:51,750 --> 00:51:48,960
where

1496
00:51:54,069 --> 00:51:51,760
uh your thoughts are uh we know we we

1497
00:51:56,230 --> 00:51:54,079
talk about these forces you know like

1498
00:51:57,829 --> 00:51:56,240
let's just say for lack of a better term

1499
00:52:01,109 --> 00:51:57,839
good and evil that are

1500
00:52:03,030 --> 00:52:01,119
i guess surrounding us and you know we

1501
00:52:04,630 --> 00:52:03,040
we're talking about allies of humanity

1502
00:52:08,309 --> 00:52:04,640
but what what do you think

1503
00:52:09,270 --> 00:52:08,319
uh these forces of of this this message

1504
00:52:11,349 --> 00:52:09,280
of

1505
00:52:12,309 --> 00:52:11,359
okay these aliens are not aliens i'm

1506
00:52:13,829 --> 00:52:12,319
sorry i

1507
00:52:16,069 --> 00:52:13,839
i'll back up for a second but the

1508
00:52:18,549 --> 00:52:16,079
pentagon has said these videos

1509
00:52:19,349 --> 00:52:18,559
yeah we don't know what they are and

1510
00:52:21,589 --> 00:52:19,359
they're they're

1511
00:52:22,870 --> 00:52:21,599
they're they don't come out and say it's

1512
00:52:25,510 --> 00:52:22,880
a threat i think that was

1513
00:52:26,309 --> 00:52:25,520
um that was to the stars academy that

1514
00:52:28,630 --> 00:52:26,319
kind of

1515
00:52:30,150 --> 00:52:28,640
painted a picture of hey if we don't

1516
00:52:31,190 --> 00:52:30,160
know what they are they're a threat to

1517
00:52:33,750 --> 00:52:31,200
us right

1518
00:52:35,430 --> 00:52:33,760
um do you have anything to say on that

1519
00:52:36,549 --> 00:52:35,440
do you think that's that's some kind of

1520
00:52:39,270 --> 00:52:36,559
uh

1521
00:52:39,829 --> 00:52:39,280
leaning towards some kind of agenda or

1522
00:52:41,829 --> 00:52:39,839
is that

1523
00:52:43,589 --> 00:52:41,839
does that fit into anything that you

1524
00:52:44,470 --> 00:52:43,599
have received or your father has

1525
00:52:48,150 --> 00:52:44,480
received

1526
00:52:48,710 --> 00:52:48,160
uh or or projected yeah you know i've

1527
00:52:50,150 --> 00:52:48,720
i've

1528
00:52:52,390 --> 00:52:50,160
looked into this quite a bit over the

1529
00:52:54,710 --> 00:52:52,400
last year or two since that new york

1530
00:52:56,790 --> 00:52:54,720
times article first broke that story

1531
00:52:57,750 --> 00:52:56,800
and i can't quite put my finger on

1532
00:53:01,190 --> 00:52:57,760
whether this is

1533
00:53:03,349 --> 00:53:01,200
uh the the intentional progressive

1534
00:53:05,750 --> 00:53:03,359
revealing of what's happening in order

1535
00:53:07,910 --> 00:53:05,760
to acclimate people to it

1536
00:53:09,109 --> 00:53:07,920
uh if it's totally random hey these

1537
00:53:12,150 --> 00:53:09,119
videos just leaked and

1538
00:53:12,790 --> 00:53:12,160
you know sorry and here here's here's

1539
00:53:15,829 --> 00:53:12,800
something

1540
00:53:17,109 --> 00:53:15,839
oops or or if there are factions in the

1541
00:53:20,150 --> 00:53:17,119
government this government

1542
00:53:23,109 --> 00:53:20,160
other governments that know that we're

1543
00:53:24,549 --> 00:53:23,119
experiencing intervention hybridization

1544
00:53:26,470 --> 00:53:24,559
that these forces are integrating

1545
00:53:28,069 --> 00:53:26,480
themselves into our societies and they

1546
00:53:31,349 --> 00:53:28,079
don't know what to do and they they

1547
00:53:34,390 --> 00:53:31,359
they want to slowly inform people

1548
00:53:37,349 --> 00:53:34,400
wake them up to this um you know the

1549
00:53:39,349 --> 00:53:37,359
the the huge endless river really of

1550
00:53:42,069 --> 00:53:39,359
documentaries you see on tv

1551
00:53:43,670 --> 00:53:42,079
and on the history channel and um

1552
00:53:44,390 --> 00:53:43,680
hollywood films that keep kind of

1553
00:53:48,069 --> 00:53:44,400
churning out

1554
00:53:50,230 --> 00:53:48,079
on this arrival topic yeah contact topic

1555
00:53:52,630 --> 00:53:50,240
what is the intention here is it pure

1556
00:53:54,470 --> 00:53:52,640
fiction is it just a good story is it

1557
00:53:56,390 --> 00:53:54,480
people they think people are just always

1558
00:53:59,430 --> 00:53:56,400
curious right about the unknown

1559
00:54:00,309 --> 00:53:59,440
or is there an intention to uh to

1560
00:54:07,349 --> 00:54:00,319
quietly

1561
00:54:08,309 --> 00:54:07,359
and i think both have happened um we've

1562
00:54:10,309 --> 00:54:08,319
been told that

1563
00:54:12,790 --> 00:54:10,319
the western governments specifically in

1564
00:54:14,710 --> 00:54:12,800
the us have been more resistant to the

1565
00:54:17,030 --> 00:54:14,720
intervention

1566
00:54:18,470 --> 00:54:17,040
and actually have tried to thwart it and

1567
00:54:21,510 --> 00:54:18,480
that the intervention

1568
00:54:23,190 --> 00:54:21,520
is probably seeking safe ports of call

1569
00:54:25,109 --> 00:54:23,200
in other parts of the world

1570
00:54:26,230 --> 00:54:25,119
and is that part of the conflict we see

1571
00:54:30,390 --> 00:54:26,240
in the world today

1572
00:54:33,750 --> 00:54:30,400
possibly the intervention will seek

1573
00:54:36,309 --> 00:54:33,760
any little crack or crevice in the wall

1574
00:54:37,349 --> 00:54:36,319
of this world to penetrate and slowly

1575
00:54:39,670 --> 00:54:37,359
weaken

1576
00:54:41,910 --> 00:54:39,680
so that they can get in whether that's

1577
00:54:43,349 --> 00:54:41,920
existing conflicts between two major

1578
00:54:45,030 --> 00:54:43,359
nations in the world whether that's

1579
00:54:45,910 --> 00:54:45,040
distrust of human authority whether

1580
00:54:49,030 --> 00:54:45,920
that's

1581
00:54:51,030 --> 00:54:49,040
you know theories about um human

1582
00:54:52,950 --> 00:54:51,040
corruption and malfeasance

1583
00:54:55,349 --> 00:54:52,960
whatever it is whatever it is they'll

1584
00:54:57,109 --> 00:54:55,359
use it so i don't to answer your

1585
00:54:58,390 --> 00:54:57,119
question i do not know where that's

1586
00:55:01,349 --> 00:54:58,400
coming from

1587
00:55:02,390 --> 00:55:01,359
um but i do know through the allies that

1588
00:55:04,069 --> 00:55:02,400
there are certain

1589
00:55:06,309 --> 00:55:04,079
factions in government that have

1590
00:55:09,510 --> 00:55:06,319
resisted the intervention

1591
00:55:12,710 --> 00:55:09,520
um in the west especially

1592
00:55:16,390 --> 00:55:12,720
and beyond that i really can't say

1593
00:55:18,390 --> 00:55:16,400
wow i mean the west being america right

1594
00:55:21,430 --> 00:55:18,400
like western western culture

1595
00:55:23,510 --> 00:55:21,440
yeah yeah i feel like there's there

1596
00:55:24,950 --> 00:55:23,520
a friend of mine asked me like why don't

1597
00:55:28,069 --> 00:55:24,960
you hear about uh

1598
00:55:30,630 --> 00:55:28,079
you know aliens or or sightings or or uh

1599
00:55:33,190 --> 00:55:30,640
experiencers in let's say india like the

1600
00:55:36,309 --> 00:55:33,200
most populated country in the world

1601
00:55:38,789 --> 00:55:36,319
and hey yo

1602
00:55:40,470 --> 00:55:38,799
and i no worries uh and i say well yeah

1603
00:55:41,109 --> 00:55:40,480
there's probably that's happening you

1604
00:55:43,750 --> 00:55:41,119
just

1605
00:55:44,230 --> 00:55:43,760
i mean do you read indian news like do

1606
00:55:47,670 --> 00:55:44,240
you

1607
00:55:49,430 --> 00:55:47,680
listen to indian podcasts uh no i don't

1608
00:55:51,589 --> 00:55:49,440
i don't myself

1609
00:55:53,349 --> 00:55:51,599
oh i'm sorry i i phrased that weirdly i

1610
00:55:55,030 --> 00:55:53,359
guess i was talking in the past tense to

1611
00:55:57,589 --> 00:55:55,040
my buddy who asked me

1612
00:55:59,349 --> 00:55:57,599
oh yeah yeah like why does it happen in

1613
00:55:59,990 --> 00:55:59,359
other it seems like it only happens in

1614
00:56:01,430 --> 00:56:00,000
america

1615
00:56:03,829 --> 00:56:01,440
all this stuff but it's happening

1616
00:56:04,950 --> 00:56:03,839
worldwide and i have a point to that

1617
00:56:07,750 --> 00:56:04,960
that that point is

1618
00:56:09,670 --> 00:56:07,760
is so the purpose of this message you i

1619
00:56:11,510 --> 00:56:09,680
mean we want to get this thing worldwide

1620
00:56:14,230 --> 00:56:11,520
and you you you spoke about the

1621
00:56:15,190 --> 00:56:14,240
uh the new message and i guess is it all

1622
00:56:18,549 --> 00:56:15,200
the books that have been

1623
00:56:20,710 --> 00:56:18,559
translated into how many languages four

1624
00:56:22,230 --> 00:56:20,720
i think thirty thirty two thirty two

1625
00:56:24,230 --> 00:56:22,240
thirty two goodness

1626
00:56:27,270 --> 00:56:24,240
well and that not not all of the books

1627
00:56:29,670 --> 00:56:27,280
but it's it actually there's 70 people

1628
00:56:31,589 --> 00:56:29,680
who are translating every week into 32

1629
00:56:33,349 --> 00:56:31,599
languages

1630
00:56:35,030 --> 00:56:33,359
and so every week it rolls out further

1631
00:56:36,470 --> 00:56:35,040
and further so are they like

1632
00:56:38,230 --> 00:56:36,480
are they like a bunch of dudes like

1633
00:56:39,349 --> 00:56:38,240
sitting in one building like with uh

1634
00:56:42,230 --> 00:56:39,359
like quills just

1635
00:56:43,190 --> 00:56:42,240
like straight up these are inspired

1636
00:56:46,150 --> 00:56:43,200
readers who

1637
00:56:46,950 --> 00:56:46,160
who are volunteering hundreds of hours

1638
00:56:49,030 --> 00:56:46,960
of their time

1639
00:56:51,190 --> 00:56:49,040
to get this message out that's beautiful

1640
00:56:53,190 --> 00:56:51,200
into their countries and

1641
00:56:54,230 --> 00:56:53,200
yeah it is beautiful yeah that's so

1642
00:56:56,950 --> 00:56:54,240
awesome um

1643
00:56:57,990 --> 00:56:56,960
yeah i'm just i'm thinking of uh all

1644
00:56:59,430 --> 00:56:58,000
kinds of questions to

1645
00:57:01,910 --> 00:56:59,440
ask you here i'm like spitballing my

1646
00:57:04,950 --> 00:57:01,920
brain i've got one okay

1647
00:57:07,990 --> 00:57:04,960
let's let's kind of talk about you

1648
00:57:11,109 --> 00:57:08,000
and your story i mean how how did you

1649
00:57:14,470 --> 00:57:11,119
get to this place were you always

1650
00:57:15,190 --> 00:57:14,480
uh kind of uh like when this happened

1651
00:57:18,470 --> 00:57:15,200
were you like

1652
00:57:19,910 --> 00:57:18,480
oh my goodness i think that's crazy or

1653
00:57:21,910 --> 00:57:19,920
did it take you some time to kind of

1654
00:57:24,630 --> 00:57:21,920
warm up to it and then you

1655
00:57:25,589 --> 00:57:24,640
kind of started following along or have

1656
00:57:29,030 --> 00:57:25,599
you always just

1657
00:57:31,190 --> 00:57:29,040
been into it um

1658
00:57:33,670 --> 00:57:31,200
well i've got my own story to tell and

1659
00:57:34,150 --> 00:57:33,680
it's it's a long one too but i i came

1660
00:57:37,030 --> 00:57:34,160
home

1661
00:57:37,829 --> 00:57:37,040
to help my father uh bring this message

1662
00:57:41,990 --> 00:57:37,839
to people

1663
00:57:42,710 --> 00:57:42,000
about gosh was in 2004 so about 16 years

1664
00:57:44,630 --> 00:57:42,720
ago

1665
00:57:45,990 --> 00:57:44,640
and then that was the result of my own

1666
00:57:48,150 --> 00:57:46,000
personal revelation

1667
00:57:49,030 --> 00:57:48,160
i was living and working in the middle

1668
00:57:52,549 --> 00:57:49,040
east

1669
00:57:53,190 --> 00:57:52,559
i had my own my own you know agenda for

1670
00:57:57,589 --> 00:57:53,200
my

1671
00:57:59,510 --> 00:57:57,599
something came and pulled the rug out

1672
00:58:01,270 --> 00:57:59,520
from under me you know

1673
00:58:03,670 --> 00:58:01,280
and this happens this happens we have

1674
00:58:06,309 --> 00:58:03,680
plans and then something happens

1675
00:58:07,270 --> 00:58:06,319
and we get rerouted onto a different

1676
00:58:08,789 --> 00:58:07,280
highway of life

1677
00:58:10,870 --> 00:58:08,799
and we go somewhere we never thought we

1678
00:58:12,789 --> 00:58:10,880
would go marshall

1679
00:58:13,990 --> 00:58:12,799
my father never expected or assumed i

1680
00:58:15,589 --> 00:58:14,000
would help him he

1681
00:58:18,230 --> 00:58:15,599
you know he and my mother gave me a

1682
00:58:20,390 --> 00:58:18,240
wonderful loving family and

1683
00:58:22,230 --> 00:58:20,400
support go to college and go out there

1684
00:58:25,670 --> 00:58:22,240
and have a career and

1685
00:58:28,150 --> 00:58:25,680
and all that um and something

1686
00:58:29,190 --> 00:58:28,160
it was it was back in 2004 when the rug

1687
00:58:31,670 --> 00:58:29,200
started to move

1688
00:58:32,789 --> 00:58:31,680
and i started to look around and think

1689
00:58:34,870 --> 00:58:32,799
wow

1690
00:58:36,710 --> 00:58:34,880
something's changing there's something i

1691
00:58:39,270 --> 00:58:36,720
need to know here

1692
00:58:41,109 --> 00:58:39,280
the direction of my life is not right i

1693
00:58:44,950 --> 00:58:41,119
need to go in another direction

1694
00:58:47,109 --> 00:58:44,960
and i had a series of kind of mysterious

1695
00:58:49,589 --> 00:58:47,119
events that that

1696
00:58:51,589 --> 00:58:49,599
led me to come home to help marshall

1697
00:58:53,990 --> 00:58:51,599
bring this message out

1698
00:58:54,630 --> 00:58:54,000
and um i've been doing that ever since

1699
00:58:57,910 --> 00:58:54,640
and

1700
00:58:58,950 --> 00:58:57,920
um you know it's it's been it's been a

1701
00:59:01,190 --> 00:58:58,960
road to haul

1702
00:59:02,150 --> 00:59:01,200
you know it's been a long one and it's

1703
00:59:03,750 --> 00:59:02,160
not easy

1704
00:59:05,349 --> 00:59:03,760
you know people don't want to some

1705
00:59:07,030 --> 00:59:05,359
people don't want to hear this message

1706
00:59:10,230 --> 00:59:07,040
some people are very offended by it

1707
00:59:11,270 --> 00:59:10,240
right it's a challenging message because

1708
00:59:13,910 --> 00:59:11,280
it's real

1709
00:59:15,670 --> 00:59:13,920
you know it's not what we want it's what

1710
00:59:17,670 --> 00:59:15,680
we need

1711
00:59:18,789 --> 00:59:17,680
i hope in time it will become more of

1712
00:59:21,270 --> 00:59:18,799
what we want

1713
00:59:22,710 --> 00:59:21,280
but it's you know it's not a sales pitch

1714
00:59:24,309 --> 00:59:22,720
for our personal

1715
00:59:25,750 --> 00:59:24,319
fulfillment or an adventure in

1716
00:59:27,750 --> 00:59:25,760
consciousness yeah

1717
00:59:28,870 --> 00:59:27,760
it's it's an urgent message for the

1718
00:59:32,549 --> 00:59:28,880
people of this world

1719
00:59:33,430 --> 00:59:32,559
to wake up prepare and get ready to go

1720
00:59:36,710 --> 00:59:33,440
through something

1721
00:59:38,710 --> 00:59:36,720
really big and so that's you know that's

1722
00:59:41,190 --> 00:59:38,720
my work is is helping share that out

1723
00:59:43,750 --> 00:59:41,200
and i'm with all these wonderful people

1724
00:59:45,670 --> 00:59:43,760
uh here in boulder colorado

1725
00:59:47,670 --> 00:59:45,680
and around the globe i think we have

1726
00:59:49,589 --> 00:59:47,680
over 70 people

1727
00:59:51,109 --> 00:59:49,599
working volunteering with us in our

1728
00:59:54,710 --> 00:59:51,119
organization

1729
00:59:58,150 --> 00:59:54,720
we publish we do events we broadcast

1730
00:59:58,789 --> 00:59:58,160
we have a major multi-day event coming

1731
01:00:02,470 --> 00:59:58,799
up all

1732
01:00:04,470 --> 01:00:02,480
online on uh in the in the virtual

1733
01:00:06,309 --> 01:00:04,480
in the next couple weeks so it's it's

1734
01:00:07,990 --> 01:00:06,319
really special to gather with you know

1735
01:00:10,150 --> 01:00:08,000
hundreds of people who are

1736
01:00:12,150 --> 01:00:10,160
reading this studying it undertaking the

1737
01:00:15,589 --> 01:00:12,160
preparation

1738
01:00:18,309 --> 01:00:15,599
steps to knowledge

1739
01:00:19,510 --> 01:00:18,319
which i highly recommend folks um take a

1740
01:00:21,829 --> 01:00:19,520
look at and download

1741
01:00:23,589 --> 01:00:21,839
it's free online i remember i started

1742
01:00:24,470 --> 01:00:23,599
steps when i was 16 years old and it

1743
01:00:26,950 --> 01:00:24,480
blew me away

1744
01:00:27,990 --> 01:00:26,960
it was way way way beyond what i was

1745
01:00:30,630 --> 01:00:28,000
able to do at the time

1746
01:00:31,430 --> 01:00:30,640
yeah um but i've been i've been with it

1747
01:00:35,030 --> 01:00:31,440
ever since

1748
01:00:38,630 --> 01:00:35,040
and it's slowly moving you into greater

1749
01:00:41,510 --> 01:00:38,640
connection with yourself with this

1750
01:00:42,549 --> 01:00:41,520
this spiritual ground that you stand

1751
01:00:45,349 --> 01:00:42,559
upon which is you

1752
01:00:46,150 --> 01:00:45,359
who you really are because that part of

1753
01:00:48,470 --> 01:00:46,160
you

1754
01:00:49,430 --> 01:00:48,480
is totally connected to the world where

1755
01:00:50,870 --> 01:00:49,440
the world's going

1756
01:00:53,030 --> 01:00:50,880
to the greater community in which we

1757
01:00:55,030 --> 01:00:53,040
live it's the surface mind

1758
01:00:57,510 --> 01:00:55,040
the mind that thinks and wants and

1759
01:00:58,230 --> 01:00:57,520
schemes and beliefs and hopes and wishes

1760
01:01:00,470 --> 01:00:58,240
and

1761
01:01:02,069 --> 01:01:00,480
that's the mind of the world that the

1762
01:01:05,990 --> 01:01:02,079
world shapes

1763
01:01:08,870 --> 01:01:06,000
and that is increasingly influenced and

1764
01:01:10,870 --> 01:01:08,880
at times manipulated by these powerful

1765
01:01:11,750 --> 01:01:10,880
forces at work on planet earth at this

1766
01:01:13,990 --> 01:01:11,760
time

1767
01:01:15,109 --> 01:01:14,000
so coming in contact with this deeper

1768
01:01:17,430 --> 01:01:15,119
spiritual mind

1769
01:01:18,549 --> 01:01:17,440
is my practice every day it's what i'm

1770
01:01:21,349 --> 01:01:18,559
doing

1771
01:01:24,470 --> 01:01:21,359
and that's my gift to the world it's my

1772
01:01:26,789 --> 01:01:24,480
preparation for the greater community

1773
01:01:28,390 --> 01:01:26,799
so it's that's me in a nutshell that's

1774
01:01:31,589 --> 01:01:28,400
great man yeah that's great

1775
01:01:35,589 --> 01:01:31,599
do you or i mean so

1776
01:01:39,030 --> 01:01:35,599
does does your father or do you

1777
01:01:41,030 --> 01:01:39,040
maybe does he consider himself like a

1778
01:01:44,390 --> 01:01:41,040
prophet a prophet of sorts

1779
01:01:47,030 --> 01:01:44,400
or does he just consider himself

1780
01:01:49,589 --> 01:01:47,040
a regular dude who just so happened to

1781
01:01:52,230 --> 01:01:49,599
come across these messages

1782
01:01:53,990 --> 01:01:52,240
well i think in thinking in time again

1783
01:01:57,270 --> 01:01:54,000
this began in 1983

1784
01:02:00,710 --> 01:01:57,280
so it's it's been almost 40 years of

1785
01:02:03,349 --> 01:02:00,720
constantly receiving this communication

1786
01:02:04,549 --> 01:02:03,359
uh marshall in the beginning did not

1787
01:02:07,829 --> 01:02:04,559
know

1788
01:02:09,829 --> 01:02:07,839
who he was who was talking to him what

1789
01:02:11,349 --> 01:02:09,839
who the source of this was he was just

1790
01:02:14,150 --> 01:02:11,359
willing to go with it

1791
01:02:16,150 --> 01:02:14,160
thank god right um it's more in in

1792
01:02:18,150 --> 01:02:16,160
recent times that the new message has

1793
01:02:21,029 --> 01:02:18,160
told him who he is

1794
01:02:23,270 --> 01:02:21,039
it has said to him you are a messenger

1795
01:02:25,029 --> 01:02:23,280
for a new message from god

1796
01:02:26,390 --> 01:02:25,039
and you were sent into the world for

1797
01:02:28,390 --> 01:02:26,400
this

1798
01:02:30,230 --> 01:02:28,400
just like we were all sent into the

1799
01:02:32,069 --> 01:02:30,240
world for something

1800
01:02:34,069 --> 01:02:32,079
and that's that's what he was sentenced

1801
01:02:36,549 --> 01:02:34,079
to the world for and so that's that's

1802
01:02:38,390 --> 01:02:36,559
that's who he knows himself to be and

1803
01:02:38,710 --> 01:02:38,400
there's no worship there's no adoration

1804
01:02:43,349 --> 01:02:38,720
here

1805
01:02:44,549 --> 01:02:43,359
i and we have for him i mean my god he's

1806
01:02:46,950 --> 01:02:44,559
laid down his life

1807
01:02:48,150 --> 01:02:46,960
to receive this and he hasn't gotten a

1808
01:02:51,430 --> 01:02:48,160
lot of thanks for it

1809
01:02:54,150 --> 01:02:51,440
you know it's yeah it's not been right

1810
01:02:54,789 --> 01:02:54,160
this is this has not given him fame and

1811
01:02:56,950 --> 01:02:54,799
glory

1812
01:02:57,910 --> 01:02:56,960
and you know a lot of gratitude from the

1813
01:02:59,910 --> 01:02:57,920
world

1814
01:03:01,349 --> 01:02:59,920
and yet he has held with it for for

1815
01:03:04,150 --> 01:03:01,359
almost 40 years now

1816
01:03:05,910 --> 01:03:04,160
and um so we we have a lot of respect

1817
01:03:08,950 --> 01:03:05,920
for him and he's

1818
01:03:12,069 --> 01:03:08,960
he's a fantastic person and uh

1819
01:03:13,109 --> 01:03:12,079
a brilliant teacher yeah and i i

1820
01:03:14,789 --> 01:03:13,119
recommend folks

1821
01:03:16,230 --> 01:03:14,799
go out and and just watch some of his

1822
01:03:18,630 --> 01:03:16,240
interviews and his his

1823
01:03:20,150 --> 01:03:18,640
video teachings on youtube and just get

1824
01:03:22,710 --> 01:03:20,160
a sense for him you know who is this

1825
01:03:24,069 --> 01:03:22,720
who is this man who's received over 40

1826
01:03:26,789 --> 01:03:24,079
years

1827
01:03:27,990 --> 01:03:26,799
this multi-thousand-page communication

1828
01:03:31,029 --> 01:03:28,000
from an angelic

1829
01:03:34,150 --> 01:03:31,039
purportedly angelic source and

1830
01:03:35,990 --> 01:03:34,160
four sets of briefings from a group of

1831
01:03:37,349 --> 01:03:36,000
individuals who say they have come to

1832
01:03:39,750 --> 01:03:37,359
our world

1833
01:03:41,589 --> 01:03:39,760
as a gesture of relationship to the

1834
01:03:42,630 --> 01:03:41,599
human family to warn us of this

1835
01:03:45,109 --> 01:03:42,640
intervention

1836
01:03:46,549 --> 01:03:45,119
and to prepare us for our emergence into

1837
01:03:49,829 --> 01:03:46,559
this larger universe

1838
01:03:51,510 --> 01:03:49,839
wow who is this guy yeah um i

1839
01:03:53,510 --> 01:03:51,520
go go and go and go and have your own

1840
01:03:57,190 --> 01:03:53,520
experience you know

1841
01:04:00,150 --> 01:03:57,200
man that's great do you guys have uh

1842
01:04:01,190 --> 01:04:00,160
i mean do you all have like a a church

1843
01:04:05,190 --> 01:04:01,200
or a building

1844
01:04:08,230 --> 01:04:05,200
or a temple or anything like that

1845
01:04:11,109 --> 01:04:08,240
we have a center yes here in boulder

1846
01:04:11,990 --> 01:04:11,119
uh we have an office and is what we call

1847
01:04:13,990 --> 01:04:12,000
the greater community

1848
01:04:15,750 --> 01:04:14,000
sanctuary where we've been holding

1849
01:04:18,230 --> 01:04:15,760
gatherings for

1850
01:04:19,670 --> 01:04:18,240
wow since the early 90s in this in this

1851
01:04:22,069 --> 01:04:19,680
one space

1852
01:04:23,029 --> 01:04:22,079
and it's got a real spiritual presence

1853
01:04:26,870 --> 01:04:23,039
about it

1854
01:04:30,069 --> 01:04:26,880
um and we have these these very

1855
01:04:33,430 --> 01:04:30,079
rich gatherings twice a year

1856
01:04:34,309 --> 01:04:33,440
we have two vigils we hold one dedicated

1857
01:04:38,470 --> 01:04:34,319
to knowledge

1858
01:04:41,910 --> 01:04:38,480
spiritual preparation

1859
01:04:45,430 --> 01:04:41,920
and the other a vigil dedicated to

1860
01:04:47,670 --> 01:04:45,440
receiving marshall's teachings and

1861
01:04:49,990 --> 01:04:47,680
getting with him in his mission to reach

1862
01:04:51,430 --> 01:04:50,000
the world with this preparation

1863
01:04:53,029 --> 01:04:51,440
so we have two vigils we have an

1864
01:04:53,990 --> 01:04:53,039
encampment we hold every year in the

1865
01:04:56,309 --> 01:04:54,000
high rockies

1866
01:04:57,670 --> 01:04:56,319
although uh due to covid that's not

1867
01:04:59,190 --> 01:04:57,680
going to take place this year although

1868
01:05:01,270 --> 01:04:59,200
we are going to do

1869
01:05:02,710 --> 01:05:01,280
something a little different and very

1870
01:05:04,470 --> 01:05:02,720
exciting actually we'll have we'll have

1871
01:05:07,190 --> 01:05:04,480
some updates out on that soon

1872
01:05:09,270 --> 01:05:07,200
and we broadcast you know we broadcast

1873
01:05:12,390 --> 01:05:09,280
at least once a month

1874
01:05:14,789 --> 01:05:12,400
and we just continue to get the word out

1875
01:05:16,150 --> 01:05:14,799
but yes we do have a humble office and a

1876
01:05:19,270 --> 01:05:16,160
beautiful sanctuary

1877
01:05:21,029 --> 01:05:19,280
and a fabulous crew of people

1878
01:05:23,029 --> 01:05:21,039
here and all over the u.s and all over

1879
01:05:24,470 --> 01:05:23,039
the world who are who are helping us do

1880
01:05:26,630 --> 01:05:24,480
this

1881
01:05:27,589 --> 01:05:26,640
that's great man that's great i like it

1882
01:05:30,630 --> 01:05:27,599
yeah it's a joy

1883
01:05:31,270 --> 01:05:30,640
it's a joy and it's very special and you

1884
01:05:33,670 --> 01:05:31,280
know

1885
01:05:34,710 --> 01:05:33,680
the it's an open invitation to people

1886
01:05:37,990 --> 01:05:34,720
who feel called

1887
01:05:39,750 --> 01:05:38,000
you know by contact and by this teaching

1888
01:05:43,029 --> 01:05:39,760
on the greater community

1889
01:05:45,829 --> 01:05:43,039
to become a student you know become

1890
01:05:47,589 --> 01:05:45,839
a reader you know read these revelations

1891
01:05:48,470 --> 01:05:47,599
and teachings and see what this holds

1892
01:05:50,470 --> 01:05:48,480
for you

1893
01:05:51,750 --> 01:05:50,480
yeah i mean you know what i what i kind

1894
01:05:53,990 --> 01:05:51,760
of uh

1895
01:05:55,670 --> 01:05:54,000
what i'm kind of getting from this and

1896
01:05:57,990 --> 01:05:55,680
and i and i kind of like it is

1897
01:06:00,150 --> 01:05:58,000
is it's uh you know like you said this

1898
01:06:02,829 --> 01:06:00,160
is this is a message

1899
01:06:04,309 --> 01:06:02,839
there doesn't seem to be like this this

1900
01:06:07,670 --> 01:06:04,319
pressure behind

1901
01:06:09,910 --> 01:06:07,680
it you know i mean not uh

1902
01:06:11,829 --> 01:06:09,920
agenda there it feels like there's yeah

1903
01:06:13,430 --> 01:06:11,839
like it doesn't seem very pressured or

1904
01:06:14,230 --> 01:06:13,440
some sort of agenda behind i mean

1905
01:06:16,950 --> 01:06:14,240
obviously there's

1906
01:06:18,870 --> 01:06:16,960
there is like a certain agenda which is

1907
01:06:19,750 --> 01:06:18,880
to kind of get people to listen to this

1908
01:06:22,630 --> 01:06:19,760
message right

1909
01:06:23,910 --> 01:06:22,640
but it's not like a force fed thing that

1910
01:06:26,710 --> 01:06:23,920
you just

1911
01:06:27,190 --> 01:06:26,720
like you must repent or like yeah you're

1912
01:06:30,309 --> 01:06:27,200
not

1913
01:06:32,309 --> 01:06:30,319
born into sin yeah yeah right

1914
01:06:33,510 --> 01:06:32,319
right no this is a gift and an

1915
01:06:35,910 --> 01:06:33,520
invitation

1916
01:06:37,990 --> 01:06:35,920
um to be a part of this event in history

1917
01:06:39,990 --> 01:06:38,000
in the world and and reconnect with with

1918
01:06:43,430 --> 01:06:40,000
your own deeper nature i mean that's

1919
01:06:44,710 --> 01:06:43,440
essentially what this is and who we are

1920
01:06:48,069 --> 01:06:44,720
is we're we're some

1921
01:06:51,029 --> 01:06:48,079
good people working to help our world

1922
01:06:52,710 --> 01:06:51,039
in this specific way and uh it's i know

1923
01:06:53,670 --> 01:06:52,720
i know the people who are here i know

1924
01:06:56,230 --> 01:06:53,680
them all by name

1925
01:06:57,109 --> 01:06:56,240
and and there's there's hundreds of them

1926
01:06:59,510 --> 01:06:57,119
so and they're

1927
01:07:00,470 --> 01:06:59,520
and they're just they're people like any

1928
01:07:03,510 --> 01:07:00,480
of us you know

1929
01:07:04,309 --> 01:07:03,520
who were who were moved by this and and

1930
01:07:06,150 --> 01:07:04,319
realized

1931
01:07:07,349 --> 01:07:06,160
you know what i need to get behind this

1932
01:07:09,910 --> 01:07:07,359
and push

1933
01:07:10,870 --> 01:07:09,920
this this needs to get out there yeah

1934
01:07:12,829 --> 01:07:10,880
definitely and

1935
01:07:15,430 --> 01:07:12,839
it definitely seems like a thing that's

1936
01:07:17,430 --> 01:07:15,440
uh i don't want to say like

1937
01:07:19,349 --> 01:07:17,440
self-help you know but it but it

1938
01:07:20,549 --> 01:07:19,359
definitely does kind of seem like you're

1939
01:07:23,829 --> 01:07:20,559
you're uh

1940
01:07:26,470 --> 01:07:23,839
bettering yourself you know uh

1941
01:07:27,990 --> 01:07:26,480
for the purpose of you being a better

1942
01:07:30,470 --> 01:07:28,000
person like i i feel like with

1943
01:07:31,109 --> 01:07:30,480
most religions you know it's like so we

1944
01:07:35,750 --> 01:07:31,119
do this

1945
01:07:37,670 --> 01:07:35,760
whatever it is you know you're you're

1946
01:07:40,710 --> 01:07:37,680
basically like you're almost a

1947
01:07:43,910 --> 01:07:40,720
a slave to your own religion uh

1948
01:07:45,270 --> 01:07:43,920
in a sense and and listening to this and

1949
01:07:45,829 --> 01:07:45,280
kind of reading through some of the

1950
01:07:49,109 --> 01:07:45,839
stuff

1951
01:07:51,190 --> 01:07:49,119
it kind of seems more of a look i'm here

1952
01:07:54,309 --> 01:07:51,200
to tell you that there's these messages

1953
01:07:57,190 --> 01:07:54,319
right these messages came from god

1954
01:07:58,950 --> 01:07:57,200
if you listen to them you yourself can

1955
01:08:01,670 --> 01:07:58,960
be a better person

1956
01:08:03,589 --> 01:08:01,680
uh take it or leave it you know

1957
01:08:04,230 --> 01:08:03,599
obviously you would rather people take

1958
01:08:10,470 --> 01:08:04,240
it

1959
01:08:13,510 --> 01:08:10,480
betterment of just

1960
01:08:16,870 --> 01:08:13,520
self in general yeah oh well

1961
01:08:19,269 --> 01:08:16,880
yeah i mean who we are what we express

1962
01:08:20,309 --> 01:08:19,279
what we value how we treat each other

1963
01:08:22,309 --> 01:08:20,319
and

1964
01:08:23,669 --> 01:08:22,319
this is what we are teaching in the

1965
01:08:24,789 --> 01:08:23,679
world you know the new message says

1966
01:08:27,430 --> 01:08:24,799
we're always teaching

1967
01:08:28,709 --> 01:08:27,440
every day every hour of your life you're

1968
01:08:30,630 --> 01:08:28,719
teaching something

1969
01:08:32,550 --> 01:08:30,640
you're affirming something and you're

1970
01:08:33,510 --> 01:08:32,560
contributing that out into the physical

1971
01:08:35,030 --> 01:08:33,520
environment

1972
01:08:36,870 --> 01:08:35,040
that we interact with and the mental

1973
01:08:40,390 --> 01:08:36,880
environment of thought

1974
01:08:43,510 --> 01:08:40,400
and so this is absolutely about

1975
01:08:46,149 --> 01:08:43,520
not only betterment but restoration

1976
01:08:47,189 --> 01:08:46,159
because i think in the process of coming

1977
01:08:49,189 --> 01:08:47,199
into this world

1978
01:08:50,309 --> 01:08:49,199
maybe any world we lose touch with

1979
01:08:53,590 --> 01:08:50,319
ourselves

1980
01:08:56,070 --> 01:08:53,600
right we we become fractured we we

1981
01:08:57,189 --> 01:08:56,080
take in we um assimilate things that are

1982
01:08:59,430 --> 01:08:57,199
not us

1983
01:09:01,349 --> 01:08:59,440
and then they they kind of produce like

1984
01:09:02,950 --> 01:09:01,359
a fissure in the mind

1985
01:09:04,470 --> 01:09:02,960
and we're two different people we're

1986
01:09:05,829 --> 01:09:04,480
three different people we have alternate

1987
01:09:07,349 --> 01:09:05,839
personalities where

1988
01:09:09,430 --> 01:09:07,359
we have different agendas we're going in

1989
01:09:11,110 --> 01:09:09,440
different directions we want to be

1990
01:09:13,510 --> 01:09:11,120
helpful and serve others but we also

1991
01:09:13,829 --> 01:09:13,520
want to kind of collect for ourselves

1992
01:09:17,749 --> 01:09:13,839
and

1993
01:09:20,309 --> 01:09:17,759
whatever

1994
01:09:21,669 --> 01:09:20,319
so we become unlike ourselves the new

1995
01:09:24,390 --> 01:09:21,679
message

1996
01:09:26,709 --> 01:09:24,400
just like any original revelation from

1997
01:09:29,269 --> 01:09:26,719
from a divine source in history

1998
01:09:30,950 --> 01:09:29,279
is about restoring us to who we were

1999
01:09:32,870 --> 01:09:30,960
before this life

2000
01:09:34,149 --> 01:09:32,880
so that we can contribute that in this

2001
01:09:37,349 --> 01:09:34,159
life

2002
01:09:39,829 --> 01:09:37,359
because that original self that you

2003
01:09:41,189 --> 01:09:39,839
that is who you really are that has been

2004
01:09:43,269 --> 01:09:41,199
going

2005
01:09:45,510 --> 01:09:43,279
through the universe across lifetimes

2006
01:09:48,550 --> 01:09:45,520
manifesting here and there

2007
01:09:51,749 --> 01:09:48,560
all as a process of coming home

2008
01:09:54,870 --> 01:09:51,759
and learning that you know separation

2009
01:09:57,270 --> 01:09:54,880
isn't that fulfilling right yeah be

2010
01:09:58,550 --> 01:09:57,280
you know having my own thing in the

2011
01:10:01,270 --> 01:09:58,560
universe doesn't work

2012
01:10:02,229 --> 01:10:01,280
out right uh maybe there's something

2013
01:10:04,950 --> 01:10:02,239
there's another way

2014
01:10:06,390 --> 01:10:04,960
and over lifetimes we're learning this

2015
01:10:08,229 --> 01:10:06,400
um

2016
01:10:10,070 --> 01:10:08,239
that's that's in essence what the new

2017
01:10:13,110 --> 01:10:10,080
message from god is here to help us with

2018
01:10:15,669 --> 01:10:13,120
it's here to help us find out

2019
01:10:16,310 --> 01:10:15,679
who we are what we carry and to give

2020
01:10:21,990 --> 01:10:16,320
that

2021
01:10:24,870 --> 01:10:22,000
again and again

2022
01:10:25,669 --> 01:10:24,880
all over uh in these very challenging

2023
01:10:29,189 --> 01:10:25,679
lives

2024
01:10:31,910 --> 01:10:29,199
you know uh that we can kind of achieve

2025
01:10:33,590 --> 01:10:31,920
a level of realization and contribution

2026
01:10:34,950 --> 01:10:33,600
such that we don't need to be in

2027
01:10:38,149 --> 01:10:34,960
physical form

2028
01:10:40,630 --> 01:10:38,159
we can serve at higher levels we can be

2029
01:10:42,310 --> 01:10:40,640
at those levels uh you know ultimately

2030
01:10:44,470 --> 01:10:42,320
that the angelic presence is at that is

2031
01:10:46,070 --> 01:10:44,480
given the new message in the first place

2032
01:10:48,390 --> 01:10:46,080
so there's kind of there's a process

2033
01:10:50,709 --> 01:10:48,400
underway and it is about

2034
01:10:52,709 --> 01:10:50,719
betterment it is about restoration it's

2035
01:10:55,350 --> 01:10:52,719
about coming home to yourself

2036
01:10:56,870 --> 01:10:55,360
but the self we're coming home to is the

2037
01:11:00,310 --> 01:10:56,880
self that's connected

2038
01:11:04,070 --> 01:11:00,320
to life in the universe to life

2039
01:11:07,110 --> 01:11:04,080
and it wants us to have a successful

2040
01:11:09,270 --> 01:11:07,120
uh life purposeful life of contribution

2041
01:11:10,950 --> 01:11:09,280
to serve the world that we're facing now

2042
01:11:11,510 --> 01:11:10,960
not a hundred years ago not a thousand

2043
01:11:14,229 --> 01:11:11,520
years ago

2044
01:11:16,390 --> 01:11:14,239
this world and this world is facing

2045
01:11:18,470 --> 01:11:16,400
environmental destruction

2046
01:11:19,990 --> 01:11:18,480
uh increasing conflict and war

2047
01:11:21,430 --> 01:11:20,000
intervention from other forms of

2048
01:11:23,750 --> 01:11:21,440
intelligent life

2049
01:11:25,030 --> 01:11:23,760
depletion of our resources fresh water

2050
01:11:28,310 --> 01:11:25,040
so so on and so forth

2051
01:11:30,630 --> 01:11:28,320
huge issues right that need contribution

2052
01:11:32,870 --> 01:11:30,640
so that's what this is about it's making

2053
01:11:36,070 --> 01:11:32,880
that contribution

2054
01:11:38,149 --> 01:11:36,080
so are there any safeguards in place uh

2055
01:11:39,110 --> 01:11:38,159
for you guys and and by safeguards what

2056
01:11:42,950 --> 01:11:39,120
i mean is

2057
01:11:45,990 --> 01:11:42,960
you know i mean i i'm sure most of these

2058
01:11:49,430 --> 01:11:46,000
religions you know throughout history

2059
01:11:52,310 --> 01:11:49,440
you know started with this pure great

2060
01:11:52,709 --> 01:11:52,320
intent um but i mean let's face it i

2061
01:11:56,149 --> 01:11:52,719
mean

2062
01:11:59,030 --> 01:11:56,159
there's been a lot of of terrible

2063
01:12:01,030 --> 01:11:59,040
terrible evil things done in the name of

2064
01:12:01,910 --> 01:12:01,040
god or in the name of allah you know

2065
01:12:04,229 --> 01:12:01,920
what i'm saying

2066
01:12:05,590 --> 01:12:04,239
or for all these religions do you guys

2067
01:12:09,110 --> 01:12:05,600
feel like you have

2068
01:12:12,550 --> 01:12:09,120
a safeguard in place to keep your

2069
01:12:15,350 --> 01:12:12,560
message from being twisted um

2070
01:12:16,149 --> 01:12:15,360
in in uh in that way you know say in the

2071
01:12:19,350 --> 01:12:16,159
next

2072
01:12:24,149 --> 01:12:19,360
200 years you know or or do you think

2073
01:12:26,229 --> 01:12:24,159
the message itself is the safeguard

2074
01:12:28,149 --> 01:12:26,239
yeah great question it's on our minds

2075
01:12:31,590 --> 01:12:28,159
you know and you're right this happens

2076
01:12:33,750 --> 01:12:31,600
um it's almost inevitable so what what

2077
01:12:36,790 --> 01:12:33,760
keeps it alive what keeps it original

2078
01:12:37,510 --> 01:12:36,800
and pure well a number of things the

2079
01:12:40,070 --> 01:12:37,520
messenger

2080
01:12:41,030 --> 01:12:40,080
himself has been recorded extensively

2081
01:12:42,870 --> 01:12:41,040
teaching

2082
01:12:44,630 --> 01:12:42,880
you know explaining what this is for

2083
01:12:47,189 --> 01:12:44,640
what it's about

2084
01:12:49,030 --> 01:12:47,199
and that's all being made available you

2085
01:12:51,270 --> 01:12:49,040
know that communication we have a

2086
01:12:52,709 --> 01:12:51,280
community site where we have a huge

2087
01:12:56,149 --> 01:12:52,719
library of teachings

2088
01:12:59,510 --> 01:12:56,159
from marshall myself my mother patricia

2089
01:13:00,070 --> 01:12:59,520
um all to generate this kind of sense of

2090
01:13:02,830 --> 01:13:00,080
unity

2091
01:13:03,990 --> 01:13:02,840
and alignment that can go on you know

2092
01:13:07,350 --> 01:13:04,000
generationally

2093
01:13:10,149 --> 01:13:07,360
uh the revelation the original audio

2094
01:13:11,350 --> 01:13:10,159
uh is available it's it's secure it's

2095
01:13:14,229 --> 01:13:11,360
been transcribed

2096
01:13:15,750 --> 01:13:14,239
so the original word is intact and is is

2097
01:13:18,870 --> 01:13:15,760
going to be kept pure

2098
01:13:20,630 --> 01:13:18,880
that's huge yeah um

2099
01:13:22,630 --> 01:13:20,640
the the community that's forming around

2100
01:13:23,590 --> 01:13:22,640
the new message which which we call the

2101
01:13:26,229 --> 01:13:23,600
worldwide community

2102
01:13:27,110 --> 01:13:26,239
of the new message these people have

2103
01:13:29,270 --> 01:13:27,120
been students

2104
01:13:31,350 --> 01:13:29,280
uh many of them for many many years and

2105
01:13:34,390 --> 01:13:31,360
they're they're dedicated

2106
01:13:36,550 --> 01:13:34,400
they they've received this directly

2107
01:13:38,630 --> 01:13:36,560
you know from marshall and they're on

2108
01:13:41,910 --> 01:13:38,640
board to help keep this secure

2109
01:13:44,709 --> 01:13:41,920
and pure and intact over time

2110
01:13:45,590 --> 01:13:44,719
but you know even with all of that the

2111
01:13:48,870 --> 01:13:45,600
truth is

2112
01:13:50,310 --> 01:13:48,880
you know revelation becomes starts to

2113
01:13:52,950 --> 01:13:50,320
harden the moment it's given into the

2114
01:13:56,229 --> 01:13:52,960
world right it hardens into ideas

2115
01:13:59,510 --> 01:13:56,239
fixed kind of dogmatic belief systems

2116
01:14:00,229 --> 01:13:59,520
um people typically want to you know

2117
01:14:01,830 --> 01:14:00,239
have a group

2118
01:14:03,669 --> 01:14:01,840
and start to think well i'm in the group

2119
01:14:05,030 --> 01:14:03,679
and they're not you know i'm a student

2120
01:14:06,870 --> 01:14:05,040
of the new message and they're not

2121
01:14:08,390 --> 01:14:06,880
yeah i'm i'm going to be saved they're

2122
01:14:10,149 --> 01:14:08,400
not and that's

2123
01:14:11,750 --> 01:14:10,159
i don't know if that's separation i

2124
01:14:13,669 --> 01:14:11,760
don't know if that's just what it

2125
01:14:15,430 --> 01:14:13,679
what happens in the mind you know we see

2126
01:14:17,189 --> 01:14:15,440
other beings yeah i mean

2127
01:14:19,110 --> 01:14:17,199
it's tribal you start to differentiate

2128
01:14:21,510 --> 01:14:19,120
and become tribal yes

2129
01:14:23,669 --> 01:14:21,520
so you know that's there and so this has

2130
01:14:24,149 --> 01:14:23,679
to be kept alive it has to be birthed

2131
01:14:26,870 --> 01:14:24,159
anew

2132
01:14:28,229 --> 01:14:26,880
in the experience of the individual

2133
01:14:29,830 --> 01:14:28,239
absolutely man

2134
01:14:31,750 --> 01:14:29,840
it's it's that and that's i take that

2135
01:14:32,070 --> 01:14:31,760
seriously for myself i'm a student of

2136
01:14:35,750 --> 01:14:32,080
this

2137
01:14:37,669 --> 01:14:35,760
are as well

2138
01:14:38,950 --> 01:14:37,679
and so that's what ultimately keeps it

2139
01:14:41,990 --> 01:14:38,960
alive i feel

2140
01:14:43,830 --> 01:14:42,000
yeah uh that's good man because i mean i

2141
01:14:45,350 --> 01:14:43,840
guess you know one thing that you guys

2142
01:14:48,390 --> 01:14:45,360
have going for you

2143
01:14:50,709 --> 01:14:48,400
is uh you were actually able to

2144
01:14:51,510 --> 01:14:50,719
record these messages you know you've

2145
01:14:54,709 --> 01:14:51,520
got the

2146
01:14:57,430 --> 01:14:54,719
original you know audio and

2147
01:14:58,470 --> 01:14:57,440
you know it's it's kind of hard to to

2148
01:14:59,910 --> 01:14:58,480
change that stuff

2149
01:15:01,510 --> 01:14:59,920
up you know and we're talking about all

2150
01:15:04,149 --> 01:15:01,520
this older stuff i mean

2151
01:15:04,950 --> 01:15:04,159
we're talking you know stuff written on

2152
01:15:08,310 --> 01:15:04,960
papaya

2153
01:15:08,709 --> 01:15:08,320
and then lost you know and sandstorms

2154
01:15:11,030 --> 01:15:08,719
and

2155
01:15:13,430 --> 01:15:11,040
the bible wasn't written for hundreds of

2156
01:15:13,830 --> 01:15:13,440
years till after jesus even died so i

2157
01:15:15,510 --> 01:15:13,840
mean

2158
01:15:17,270 --> 01:15:15,520
you've got people making up their own

2159
01:15:18,950 --> 01:15:17,280
stories and this and that so

2160
01:15:21,990 --> 01:15:18,960
it's a little hard to kind of you know

2161
01:15:23,669 --> 01:15:22,000
like i guess keep that pure but i guess

2162
01:15:25,110 --> 01:15:23,679
what is going for you guys is y'all

2163
01:15:28,149 --> 01:15:25,120
actually have this

2164
01:15:30,470 --> 01:15:28,159
this audio you know save it on a

2165
01:15:31,510 --> 01:15:30,480
on a backup hard drive you know we

2166
01:15:34,870 --> 01:15:31,520
always have this

2167
01:15:37,830 --> 01:15:34,880
this hard copy of the original

2168
01:15:39,830 --> 01:15:37,840
uh message and unfortunately these other

2169
01:15:41,669 --> 01:15:39,840
religions weren't able to

2170
01:15:43,030 --> 01:15:41,679
you know keep that original message i

2171
01:15:44,630 --> 01:15:43,040
mean written

2172
01:15:46,310 --> 01:15:44,640
and rewritten into many different

2173
01:15:47,430 --> 01:15:46,320
languages you know over hundreds of

2174
01:15:50,310 --> 01:15:47,440
years

2175
01:15:52,390 --> 01:15:50,320
countless times uh and you guys don't

2176
01:15:55,110 --> 01:15:52,400
have that issue right

2177
01:15:55,750 --> 01:15:55,120
i mean i i feel this is the first time

2178
01:15:57,910 --> 01:15:55,760
that a

2179
01:15:59,669 --> 01:15:57,920
message from god has ever been recorded

2180
01:16:02,950 --> 01:15:59,679
in audio form

2181
01:16:05,669 --> 01:16:02,960
um we're we're reading the original here

2182
01:16:07,669 --> 01:16:05,679
not something someone said someone said

2183
01:16:10,070 --> 01:16:07,679
you know like like you're saying i know

2184
01:16:13,510 --> 01:16:10,080
and the alteration of revelations

2185
01:16:16,470 --> 01:16:13,520
in history has led to some pretty

2186
01:16:17,350 --> 01:16:16,480
big errors in understanding things that

2187
01:16:20,470 --> 01:16:17,360
were not written

2188
01:16:21,030 --> 01:16:20,480
not recorded or were related down

2189
01:16:23,990 --> 01:16:21,040
through time

2190
01:16:25,750 --> 01:16:24,000
incorrectly so i mean here we've got

2191
01:16:28,070 --> 01:16:25,760
this enormous revelation

2192
01:16:29,189 --> 01:16:28,080
all of it recorded being made free

2193
01:16:31,830 --> 01:16:29,199
online free

2194
01:16:34,709 --> 01:16:31,840
to people around the world and and

2195
01:16:36,310 --> 01:16:34,719
there's a lot of safety in that and uh

2196
01:16:38,070 --> 01:16:36,320
it's it's really something to step back

2197
01:16:40,149 --> 01:16:38,080
and kind of take

2198
01:16:41,590 --> 01:16:40,159
yeah to see to see this whole process

2199
01:16:42,470 --> 01:16:41,600
happening it's it's the process of a

2200
01:16:44,630 --> 01:16:42,480
revelation

2201
01:16:46,470 --> 01:16:44,640
yeah being received by a messenger from

2202
01:16:49,350 --> 01:16:46,480
the creator of all life

2203
01:16:50,870 --> 01:16:49,360
i mean that's huge and i can't expect

2204
01:16:52,310 --> 01:16:50,880
you know your listeners to just believe

2205
01:16:54,149 --> 01:16:52,320
that's happening you'd have to go

2206
01:16:56,470 --> 01:16:54,159
look at the new message and look at

2207
01:16:58,870 --> 01:16:56,480
marshall the messenger and see

2208
01:17:00,470 --> 01:16:58,880
is this authentic is this real you know

2209
01:17:02,310 --> 01:17:00,480
what am i hearing here what is the what

2210
01:17:05,510 --> 01:17:02,320
is the message is the message

2211
01:17:06,870 --> 01:17:05,520
beneficial does it keep the power in my

2212
01:17:08,149 --> 01:17:06,880
hands or does it put the power in

2213
01:17:09,910 --> 01:17:08,159
someone else's hands you know

2214
01:17:11,910 --> 01:17:09,920
everyone has to go and kind of look at

2215
01:17:15,030 --> 01:17:11,920
that for themselves but

2216
01:17:16,149 --> 01:17:15,040
i know for myself it's it's it's quite

2217
01:17:18,630 --> 01:17:16,159
something

2218
01:17:21,189 --> 01:17:18,640
yeah it's a new message from god do you

2219
01:17:23,830 --> 01:17:21,199
guys consider yourselves

2220
01:17:24,229 --> 01:17:23,840
a religion or do you consider it more of

2221
01:17:28,310 --> 01:17:24,239
an

2222
01:17:30,229 --> 01:17:28,320
ideology uh it's a tricky question

2223
01:17:31,750 --> 01:17:30,239
because what is religion is

2224
01:17:33,590 --> 01:17:31,760
is the first thing that comes to mind i

2225
01:17:36,229 --> 01:17:33,600
mean if religion is dogma

2226
01:17:37,430 --> 01:17:36,239
if it's a tribe if it's an in-group and

2227
01:17:41,590 --> 01:17:37,440
out versus an out-group

2228
01:17:43,750 --> 01:17:41,600
no if religion is a process

2229
01:17:45,270 --> 01:17:43,760
a practice set of practices that

2230
01:17:49,669 --> 01:17:45,280
continually bring us back

2231
01:17:52,310 --> 01:17:49,679
into contact with god within us

2232
01:17:53,270 --> 01:17:52,320
yes absolutely it is a religion it is a

2233
01:17:57,350 --> 01:17:53,280
it is a

2234
01:17:59,990 --> 01:17:57,360
a structure

2235
01:18:01,430 --> 01:18:00,000
that supports the engagement that we

2236
01:18:05,189 --> 01:18:01,440
would have individually with

2237
01:18:07,430 --> 01:18:05,199
with the divine presence within us so um

2238
01:18:08,630 --> 01:18:07,440
will it become a worldly religion as you

2239
01:18:10,390 --> 01:18:08,640
know as we know them

2240
01:18:11,990 --> 01:18:10,400
probably you know there there will be a

2241
01:18:16,310 --> 01:18:12,000
community of people and this is their

2242
01:18:18,870 --> 01:18:16,320
path i hope it will be

2243
01:18:21,189 --> 01:18:18,880
a a community of people that honors

2244
01:18:24,229 --> 01:18:21,199
other paths

2245
01:18:25,189 --> 01:18:24,239
that doesn't become exclusivist or you

2246
01:18:28,870 --> 01:18:25,199
know

2247
01:18:30,709 --> 01:18:28,880
identifies solely with this but but

2248
01:18:32,149 --> 01:18:30,719
acknowledges that this is a message this

2249
01:18:33,830 --> 01:18:32,159
is the message that they need

2250
01:18:35,590 --> 01:18:33,840
that they needed and that there are

2251
01:18:37,750 --> 01:18:35,600
others who need it as well so

2252
01:18:40,310 --> 01:18:37,760
yeah yeah well that's interesting man

2253
01:18:42,310 --> 01:18:40,320
we'll have to see what happens

2254
01:18:43,910 --> 01:18:42,320
over time yeah yeah and you're totally

2255
01:18:44,870 --> 01:18:43,920
right man i mean you know it's gonna be

2256
01:18:46,790 --> 01:18:44,880
hard for you know

2257
01:18:48,870 --> 01:18:46,800
you don't expect people to just believe

2258
01:18:51,430 --> 01:18:48,880
this stuff you know it's up to you

2259
01:18:53,030 --> 01:18:51,440
to go and read the literature i mean i'm

2260
01:18:54,790 --> 01:18:53,040
sure there's a lot of people out there

2261
01:18:57,430 --> 01:18:54,800
that's like man this is like a

2262
01:18:59,430 --> 01:18:57,440
like a like a like mormon scientology

2263
01:18:59,830 --> 01:18:59,440
mixed together type thing you know it's

2264
01:19:03,990 --> 01:18:59,840
like

2265
01:19:06,630 --> 01:19:04,000
gonna have you know the just the

2266
01:19:08,709 --> 01:19:06,640
you know when you're using the words

2267
01:19:10,390 --> 01:19:08,719
religion or god there's always going to

2268
01:19:11,430 --> 01:19:10,400
be those people who are just immediately

2269
01:19:14,950 --> 01:19:11,440
turned off

2270
01:19:17,030 --> 01:19:14,960
but i i guess i guess uh you know

2271
01:19:19,590 --> 01:19:17,040
one thing to clarify i mean this isn't

2272
01:19:22,229 --> 01:19:19,600
like a uh

2273
01:19:22,950 --> 01:19:22,239
a christian movement right or like this

2274
01:19:26,870 --> 01:19:22,960
is that you're not

2275
01:19:29,990 --> 01:19:26,880
taking from uh i guess

2276
01:19:32,550 --> 01:19:30,000
other religions to create this

2277
01:19:33,750 --> 01:19:32,560
one religion right i mean this is kind

2278
01:19:36,950 --> 01:19:33,760
of supposed to be its

2279
01:19:39,350 --> 01:19:36,960
own thing it's a it's a new

2280
01:19:41,189 --> 01:19:39,360
message that's correct it is a new

2281
01:19:43,189 --> 01:19:41,199
message it did not arise

2282
01:19:45,270 --> 01:19:43,199
out of a christian tradition or a muslim

2283
01:19:45,910 --> 01:19:45,280
tradition it honors the christian

2284
01:19:49,189 --> 01:19:45,920
tradition

2285
01:19:51,430 --> 01:19:49,199
original revelation

2286
01:19:53,110 --> 01:19:51,440
that occurred there and and what remains

2287
01:19:53,990 --> 01:19:53,120
today after hundreds and thousands of

2288
01:19:55,669 --> 01:19:54,000
years but

2289
01:19:58,310 --> 01:19:55,679
and it is connected to them i mean it's

2290
01:20:00,870 --> 01:19:58,320
this is part of the timeless work

2291
01:20:01,830 --> 01:20:00,880
of the creator and those who work on

2292
01:20:03,750 --> 01:20:01,840
with the creator

2293
01:20:06,470 --> 01:20:03,760
to serve humanity and to advance

2294
01:20:09,030 --> 01:20:06,480
humanity so it's it's it's connected

2295
01:20:09,910 --> 01:20:09,040
um but no it did not arise out of any

2296
01:20:13,030 --> 01:20:09,920
church

2297
01:20:14,629 --> 01:20:13,040
religion group in the world this this is

2298
01:20:16,790 --> 01:20:14,639
an original spark

2299
01:20:18,149 --> 01:20:16,800
yeah this is i like that yeah you know

2300
01:20:19,270 --> 01:20:18,159
because i've always thought to myself

2301
01:20:21,830 --> 01:20:19,280
you know

2302
01:20:22,950 --> 01:20:21,840
it's funny because all the religions in

2303
01:20:24,550 --> 01:20:22,960
the world you know they

2304
01:20:26,790 --> 01:20:24,560
they kind of have this same basic

2305
01:20:29,590 --> 01:20:26,800
principle they have different beliefs

2306
01:20:31,350 --> 01:20:29,600
obviously but i've always wondered why

2307
01:20:34,709 --> 01:20:31,360
do these people fight each other

2308
01:20:35,590 --> 01:20:34,719
maybe they each have a piece of the

2309
01:20:38,229 --> 01:20:35,600
puzzle

2310
01:20:39,669 --> 01:20:38,239
um and we've just been too busy fighting

2311
01:20:42,390 --> 01:20:39,679
each other over who's right

2312
01:20:43,990 --> 01:20:42,400
as opposed to maybe putting these pieces

2313
01:20:46,310 --> 01:20:44,000
of the puzzle together

2314
01:20:47,669 --> 01:20:46,320
for the bigger picture and i feel like

2315
01:20:50,950 --> 01:20:47,679
maybe this is just

2316
01:20:53,430 --> 01:20:50,960
another piece to this cosmic puzzle

2317
01:20:54,950 --> 01:20:53,440
that humanity is just trying to figure

2318
01:20:57,750 --> 01:20:54,960
out man

2319
01:20:59,350 --> 01:20:57,760
right right well there are many reasons

2320
01:21:01,830 --> 01:20:59,360
so much violence has occurred in the

2321
01:21:03,830 --> 01:21:01,840
name of religion part partly it's

2322
01:21:04,870 --> 01:21:03,840
when you commit when you commit acts of

2323
01:21:07,750 --> 01:21:04,880
violence and

2324
01:21:09,510 --> 01:21:07,760
for for uh prosaic reasons for resources

2325
01:21:10,790 --> 01:21:09,520
for security for revenge

2326
01:21:13,910 --> 01:21:10,800
it always helps to have the

2327
01:21:15,030 --> 01:21:13,920
justification of a spiritual or divine

2328
01:21:17,430 --> 01:21:15,040
mandate does it not

2329
01:21:18,390 --> 01:21:17,440
yeah that kind of helps so a lot of what

2330
01:21:20,229 --> 01:21:18,400
we've seen

2331
01:21:22,390 --> 01:21:20,239
that that has tarnished the image of

2332
01:21:24,870 --> 01:21:22,400
religion is just humans using

2333
01:21:26,790 --> 01:21:24,880
yeah something that looks powerful and

2334
01:21:27,270 --> 01:21:26,800
and gives them a lot of power to do

2335
01:21:29,510 --> 01:21:27,280
things

2336
01:21:32,229 --> 01:21:29,520
for themselves out of their own agenda

2337
01:21:34,629 --> 01:21:32,239
it was never religion in the first place

2338
01:21:36,709 --> 01:21:34,639
and and so humanity you know we we take

2339
01:21:38,709 --> 01:21:36,719
what is divine and we absorb it into our

2340
01:21:40,149 --> 01:21:38,719
cultures our societies our politics and

2341
01:21:42,229 --> 01:21:40,159
we use it

2342
01:21:44,149 --> 01:21:42,239
uh to do what we've always done to

2343
01:21:45,990 --> 01:21:44,159
compete to control each other

2344
01:21:48,470 --> 01:21:46,000
you know but that's not actually

2345
01:21:49,430 --> 01:21:48,480
religion so let's not throw the baby out

2346
01:21:51,750 --> 01:21:49,440
with the bathwater

2347
01:21:52,709 --> 01:21:51,760
right there's something very precious

2348
01:21:56,310 --> 01:21:52,719
here i mean

2349
01:21:58,149 --> 01:21:56,320
are you really just a brain in a skull

2350
01:21:59,669 --> 01:21:58,159
hovering above two shoulders going about

2351
01:22:01,590 --> 01:21:59,679
your day eating drinking

2352
01:22:03,430 --> 01:22:01,600
procreating you know and then eventually

2353
01:22:06,950 --> 01:22:03,440
dying is that is that what you

2354
01:22:08,070 --> 01:22:06,960
are i don't think so i think we have a

2355
01:22:10,229 --> 01:22:08,080
greater origin

2356
01:22:11,350 --> 01:22:10,239
i think we have a soul i don't think

2357
01:22:12,870 --> 01:22:11,360
this is the only lifetime we've

2358
01:22:15,910 --> 01:22:12,880
manifested in

2359
01:22:17,590 --> 01:22:15,920
um that all suggests an unseen reality

2360
01:22:19,750 --> 01:22:17,600
that we cannot perceive with the two

2361
01:22:21,590 --> 01:22:19,760
eyes we have now right the two ears we

2362
01:22:24,870 --> 01:22:21,600
have now

2363
01:22:27,110 --> 01:22:24,880
if you believe that then

2364
01:22:28,310 --> 01:22:27,120
there is an inquiry you need to make

2365
01:22:31,430 --> 01:22:28,320
into what is that

2366
01:22:34,390 --> 01:22:31,440
greater reality what am i really

2367
01:22:35,189 --> 01:22:34,400
what is this life really meant to be and

2368
01:22:37,189 --> 01:22:35,199
now

2369
01:22:38,229 --> 01:22:37,199
out of your own intention you're seeking

2370
01:22:41,110 --> 01:22:38,239
god

2371
01:22:42,070 --> 01:22:41,120
you're seeking your spiritual nature

2372
01:22:43,750 --> 01:22:42,080
there are many who

2373
01:22:45,110 --> 01:22:43,760
who say they are religious and they are

2374
01:22:48,870 --> 01:22:45,120
not seeking god

2375
01:22:50,950 --> 01:22:48,880
they are not yeah they they are using

2376
01:22:52,790 --> 01:22:50,960
the label you know they're using the

2377
01:22:53,110 --> 01:22:52,800
group they're using the sacred book to

2378
01:22:56,149 --> 01:22:53,120
do

2379
01:22:57,030 --> 01:22:56,159
other things to be ahead on two

2380
01:22:59,189 --> 01:22:57,040
shoulders

2381
01:23:00,550 --> 01:22:59,199
seeking to fulfill its own agenda that's

2382
01:23:02,550 --> 01:23:00,560
really what they're doing so

2383
01:23:04,070 --> 01:23:02,560
in the end it comes down to what are you

2384
01:23:05,110 --> 01:23:04,080
where are you coming from what are you

2385
01:23:08,149 --> 01:23:05,120
attempting to do

2386
01:23:09,830 --> 01:23:08,159
through your life and you know the new

2387
01:23:13,270 --> 01:23:09,840
message teaches

2388
01:23:15,110 --> 01:23:13,280
us to to put on that those those glasses

2389
01:23:15,990 --> 01:23:15,120
of a deeper discernment you know to look

2390
01:23:18,070 --> 01:23:16,000
at others

2391
01:23:19,669 --> 01:23:18,080
regardless of religion regard if they

2392
01:23:20,229 --> 01:23:19,679
have no religion where are they coming

2393
01:23:22,229 --> 01:23:20,239
from

2394
01:23:23,590 --> 01:23:22,239
there are phenomenal people doing great

2395
01:23:27,270 --> 01:23:23,600
good who are who

2396
01:23:28,709 --> 01:23:27,280
are total atheists and and they are not

2397
01:23:29,750 --> 01:23:28,719
interested in religion and little do

2398
01:23:31,910 --> 01:23:29,760
they know

2399
01:23:33,110 --> 01:23:31,920
they're serving the world and god

2400
01:23:35,350 --> 01:23:33,120
appreciates that

2401
01:23:37,110 --> 01:23:35,360
you know yeah absolutely it all comes

2402
01:23:40,470 --> 01:23:37,120
back to where are we coming from

2403
01:23:42,550 --> 01:23:40,480
what are we seeking in our lives and um

2404
01:23:43,510 --> 01:23:42,560
so i think the new message is is an

2405
01:23:46,550 --> 01:23:43,520
invitation

2406
01:23:49,830 --> 01:23:46,560
for those who are seeking contribution

2407
01:23:52,629 --> 01:23:49,840
and participation in a greater reality

2408
01:23:55,110 --> 01:23:52,639
uh to make contact on the inside and to

2409
01:23:58,550 --> 01:23:55,120
play their part

2410
01:23:59,990 --> 01:23:58,560
damn i love that dude

2411
01:24:02,709 --> 01:24:00,000
let's can we put all of that on a

2412
01:24:05,910 --> 01:24:02,719
t-shirt exactly

2413
01:24:08,709 --> 01:24:05,920
oh um i okay so reed i know we

2414
01:24:09,189 --> 01:24:08,719
we said 9 30 so uh we've only got uh

2415
01:24:13,030 --> 01:24:09,199
maybe

2416
01:24:17,370 --> 01:24:13,040
said he said uh

2417
01:24:23,830 --> 01:24:20,950
[Laughter]

2418
01:24:25,430 --> 01:24:23,840
so yeah i mean that is a i was gonna say

2419
01:24:28,629 --> 01:24:25,440
i have a question that like we have some

2420
01:24:30,070 --> 01:24:28,639
some time uh and and we're on such a

2421
01:24:31,350 --> 01:24:30,080
high note i don't know if i i

2422
01:24:33,910 --> 01:24:31,360
don't know if we want to go too deep on

2423
01:24:34,550 --> 01:24:33,920
it but uh well i i'm running out of time

2424
01:24:36,550 --> 01:24:34,560
myself

2425
01:24:37,990 --> 01:24:36,560
okay okay so why don't we take one more

2426
01:24:39,430 --> 01:24:38,000
question or

2427
01:24:41,430 --> 01:24:39,440
maybe we can explore one more thing

2428
01:24:43,430 --> 01:24:41,440
before we uh finish up together

2429
01:24:44,470 --> 01:24:43,440
you know i i feel like the question i

2430
01:24:46,229 --> 01:24:44,480
was going to ask is

2431
01:24:48,149 --> 01:24:46,239
might bring the mood down a little bit

2432
01:24:50,149 --> 01:24:48,159
because i mean maybe we should ask a

2433
01:24:51,590 --> 01:24:50,159
different question

2434
01:24:53,830 --> 01:24:51,600
or maybe we should have a second

2435
01:24:55,430 --> 01:24:53,840
conversation yeah we can do that

2436
01:24:57,110 --> 01:24:55,440
let's do it i love the way you ended

2437
01:24:58,470 --> 01:24:57,120
that yeah i think we should end on that

2438
01:25:00,310 --> 01:24:58,480
note because that was great and

2439
01:25:01,910 --> 01:25:00,320
and that gives us an excuse to just have

2440
01:25:04,950 --> 01:25:01,920
you back again man sure

2441
01:25:07,990 --> 01:25:04,960
uh man this has been awesome uh

2442
01:25:08,709 --> 01:25:08,000
you know i uh i don't really consider

2443
01:25:11,590 --> 01:25:08,719
myself to be

2444
01:25:13,189 --> 01:25:11,600
too much of like a you know uh a

2445
01:25:13,830 --> 01:25:13,199
religious person or whatever but i i

2446
01:25:15,590 --> 01:25:13,840
think

2447
01:25:18,070 --> 01:25:15,600
uh with the stuff that you say man

2448
01:25:18,950 --> 01:25:18,080
you're kind of hooking and reeling me in

2449
01:25:20,950 --> 01:25:18,960
a little bit

2450
01:25:22,390 --> 01:25:20,960
on this stuff and and i gotta say man

2451
01:25:25,270 --> 01:25:22,400
even though i'm not

2452
01:25:27,110 --> 01:25:25,280
i thoroughly enjoy uh it's just it's the

2453
01:25:27,590 --> 01:25:27,120
truth it's the truth hooking and reeling

2454
01:25:30,470 --> 01:25:27,600
you in

2455
01:25:31,030 --> 01:25:30,480
yeah yeah yeah i mean nothing i'm doing

2456
01:25:33,430 --> 01:25:31,040
it's just

2457
01:25:34,070 --> 01:25:33,440
you know hey the truth is the truth and

2458
01:25:36,229 --> 01:25:34,080
if and

2459
01:25:37,270 --> 01:25:36,239
we have the power to discern that from

2460
01:25:39,430 --> 01:25:37,280
what is not the truth

2461
01:25:40,550 --> 01:25:39,440
it's just such a fresh perspective man

2462
01:25:43,830 --> 01:25:40,560
something that you don't

2463
01:25:44,149 --> 01:25:43,840
normally hear yeah um and and i really

2464
01:25:46,229 --> 01:25:44,159
do

2465
01:25:47,510 --> 01:25:46,239
enjoy the you know the literature and

2466
01:25:50,550 --> 01:25:47,520
kind of reading through it

2467
01:25:52,310 --> 01:25:50,560
uh and uh it's it's been a it's been an

2468
01:25:55,270 --> 01:25:52,320
absolute pleasure man honestly

2469
01:25:57,189 --> 01:25:55,280
yeah great guys thank you this is

2470
01:25:59,110 --> 01:25:57,199
fabulous thank you for having me

2471
01:26:00,310 --> 01:25:59,120
thanks so much for being on the show man

2472
01:26:02,390 --> 01:26:00,320
yeah this was great

2473
01:26:03,510 --> 01:26:02,400
yeah yeah so we'll have you back again

2474
01:26:05,750 --> 01:26:03,520
man but uh

2475
01:26:08,310 --> 01:26:05,760
well hey man i hope you have a great

2476
01:26:09,990 --> 01:26:08,320
rest of your evening man and enjoy that

2477
01:26:11,510 --> 01:26:10,000
and uh we'll set something up for the

2478
01:26:13,189 --> 01:26:11,520
future good

2479
01:26:15,189 --> 01:26:13,199
good there's a lot more to talk about

2480
01:26:17,590 --> 01:26:15,199
it's a big big picture

2481
01:26:19,750 --> 01:26:17,600
absolutely man it definitely seems like

2482
01:26:21,669 --> 01:26:19,760
it well all right man uh well thanks for

2483
01:26:21,990 --> 01:26:21,679
coming on again and uh you have a great

2484
01:26:24,070 --> 01:26:22,000
evening

2485
01:26:25,990 --> 01:26:24,080
all right all right joe thanks and

2486
01:26:26,950 --> 01:26:26,000
thanks ben hey thank you man take it

2487
01:26:30,980 --> 01:26:26,960
easy man

2488
01:26:35,350 --> 01:26:32,470
[Music]

2489
01:26:36,310 --> 01:26:35,360
well sweet dude no i was gonna ask about

2490
01:26:39,350 --> 01:26:36,320
like he mentioned

2491
01:26:41,990 --> 01:26:39,360
the the dark side of like the oh yeah

2492
01:26:42,950 --> 01:26:42,000
yeah and i'm glad you stopped me because

2493
01:26:44,790 --> 01:26:42,960
i was about to

2494
01:26:47,910 --> 01:26:44,800
yeah so you mentioned so you mentioned

2495
01:26:49,910 --> 01:26:47,920
like the evil part of things

2496
01:26:50,950 --> 01:26:49,920
so what do they want do do they want our

2497
01:26:53,750 --> 01:26:50,960
adrena chrome

2498
01:26:54,310 --> 01:26:53,760
like yeah dude i mean i don't know uh

2499
01:27:01,669 --> 01:26:54,320
there's

2500
01:27:09,669 --> 01:27:06,550
i do like that we kind of got the

2501
01:27:13,110 --> 01:27:12,550
god yeah religion thing kind of out of

2502
01:27:15,910 --> 01:27:13,120
the way

2503
01:27:17,430 --> 01:27:15,920
in this conversation yeah um well we got

2504
01:27:18,149 --> 01:27:17,440
it out in the open and then we came back

2505
01:27:21,910 --> 01:27:18,159
to it like

2506
01:27:24,629 --> 01:27:21,920
full force yeah like part of me is like

2507
01:27:26,790 --> 01:27:24,639
dude this is dope i also don't want it

2508
01:27:28,870 --> 01:27:26,800
to sound like an infomercial you know

2509
01:27:31,030 --> 01:27:28,880
yeah absolutely which i don't think it

2510
01:27:33,750 --> 01:27:31,040
felt natural it felt great dude yeah

2511
01:27:34,229 --> 01:27:33,760
i mean i was like sincerely interested

2512
01:27:35,669 --> 01:27:34,239
in like

2513
01:27:37,990 --> 01:27:35,679
okay how are you going to bring god into

2514
01:27:39,590 --> 01:27:38,000
this like yeah that's dope

2515
01:27:41,270 --> 01:27:39,600
i love the way he did it yeah it's great

2516
01:27:43,270 --> 01:27:41,280
man i just i had so many

2517
01:27:44,550 --> 01:27:43,280
questions that it was like it was almost

2518
01:27:45,350 --> 01:27:44,560
like i don't really know where to go

2519
01:27:47,830 --> 01:27:45,360
from here

2520
01:27:48,390 --> 01:27:47,840
uh because i have so many damn questions

2521
01:27:49,910 --> 01:27:48,400
man

2522
01:27:52,390 --> 01:27:49,920
and it's and it's crazy too because you

2523
01:27:55,830 --> 01:27:52,400
don't know like where to start

2524
01:27:56,229 --> 01:27:55,840
you know uh because it just goes back so

2525
01:27:58,070 --> 01:27:56,239
far

2526
01:28:00,229 --> 01:27:58,080
i mean we're talking you know about his

2527
01:28:02,390 --> 01:28:00,239
father receiving the messages right

2528
01:28:04,550 --> 01:28:02,400
you know at a certain point in time but

2529
01:28:07,590 --> 01:28:04,560
this whole thing has been going on

2530
01:28:08,629 --> 01:28:07,600
for since before the human race was even

2531
01:28:11,910 --> 01:28:08,639
a thing

2532
01:28:14,149 --> 01:28:11,920
i mean like what happens like what

2533
01:28:15,669 --> 01:28:14,159
okay so obvious so they can't come here

2534
01:28:16,950 --> 01:28:15,679
unless you invite them yeah but

2535
01:28:19,350 --> 01:28:16,960
obviously

2536
01:28:20,950 --> 01:28:19,360
what's to stop them like what happens if

2537
01:28:22,950 --> 01:28:20,960
they did just decide

2538
01:28:24,629 --> 01:28:22,960
yeah [\h__\h] it let's go you know what i'm

2539
01:28:26,310 --> 01:28:24,639
saying they decide to down here

2540
01:28:28,870 --> 01:28:26,320
go against the rules right yeah we

2541
01:28:31,510 --> 01:28:28,880
establish does like the galactic

2542
01:28:31,990 --> 01:28:31,520
you win step in and build reverse time

2543
01:28:38,629 --> 01:28:32,000
dude

2544
01:28:42,149 --> 01:28:38,639
yeah i mean

2545
01:28:45,350 --> 01:28:42,159
uh it is an extremely uh kind of a

2546
01:28:47,430 --> 01:28:45,360
fresh idea you know yeah um yeah

2547
01:28:49,189 --> 01:28:47,440
it's it's okay so i what i keep thinking

2548
01:28:50,950 --> 01:28:49,199
about is uh

2549
01:28:53,189 --> 01:28:50,960
i feel like it was a couple of episodes

2550
01:28:55,590 --> 01:28:53,199
ago but i'm pretty sure it was like

2551
01:28:56,470 --> 01:28:55,600
months ago where we talked about yeah

2552
01:28:59,110 --> 01:28:56,480
the idea of

2553
01:28:59,910 --> 01:28:59,120
what if aliens are the new religion do

2554
01:29:02,950 --> 01:28:59,920
you remember that

2555
01:29:03,270 --> 01:29:02,960
yeah so this is this is very uh i don't

2556
01:29:05,990 --> 01:29:03,280
know

2557
01:29:06,950 --> 01:29:06,000
timely where we're i think we're at our

2558
01:29:09,189 --> 01:29:06,960
point in our journey

2559
01:29:10,229 --> 01:29:09,199
doing this podcast and talking to many

2560
01:29:12,310 --> 01:29:10,239
different people with

2561
01:29:13,669 --> 01:29:12,320
many different perspectives having our

2562
01:29:15,189 --> 01:29:13,679
own experiences

2563
01:29:17,350 --> 01:29:15,199
i feel like we're at a place where we

2564
01:29:19,750 --> 01:29:17,360
could ex we can accept this

2565
01:29:21,590 --> 01:29:19,760
message you know like maybe five five

2566
01:29:23,350 --> 01:29:21,600
months ago we would have been like

2567
01:29:24,870 --> 01:29:23,360
dude that's dope but i have nothing to

2568
01:29:26,629 --> 01:29:24,880
say about it yeah

2569
01:29:28,470 --> 01:29:26,639
but i feel like now we've kind of gone

2570
01:29:31,030 --> 01:29:28,480
through these questions

2571
01:29:33,590 --> 01:29:31,040
and he was able to answer every single

2572
01:29:36,629 --> 01:29:33,600
one of them and we were able to like ask

2573
01:29:37,510 --> 01:29:36,639
you know thoughtfully having talked to

2574
01:29:39,430 --> 01:29:37,520
each other about

2575
01:29:41,270 --> 01:29:39,440
okay well where does god fit into this

2576
01:29:43,430 --> 01:29:41,280
yeah you know well i mean it was nice

2577
01:29:45,510 --> 01:29:43,440
too because it didn't come off culty

2578
01:29:46,790 --> 01:29:45,520
you know it didn't come off like i don't

2579
01:29:47,910 --> 01:29:46,800
know like i was saying like it didn't

2580
01:29:49,270 --> 01:29:47,920
come off forceful

2581
01:29:51,270 --> 01:29:49,280
i didn't you know it was just kind of

2582
01:29:52,870 --> 01:29:51,280
like a yeah i mean here's this yeah

2583
01:29:54,550 --> 01:29:52,880
here's this message man i mean

2584
01:29:56,149 --> 01:29:54,560
take it or leave it you know i'm glad

2585
01:29:59,110 --> 01:29:56,159
you asked the question uh

2586
01:29:59,750 --> 01:29:59,120
uh like do you guys have a temple or

2587
01:30:01,350 --> 01:29:59,760
whatever

2588
01:30:02,870 --> 01:30:01,360
because dude that was on my mind i just

2589
01:30:03,510 --> 01:30:02,880
didn't know how to word it so i'm glad

2590
01:30:07,350 --> 01:30:03,520
you asked

2591
01:30:08,229 --> 01:30:07,360
asked that uh okay so yeah there is a

2592
01:30:11,350 --> 01:30:08,239
physical

2593
01:30:14,149 --> 01:30:11,360
location right yeah okay cool

2594
01:30:16,070 --> 01:30:14,159
dope but they still aren't considering

2595
01:30:17,990 --> 01:30:16,080
considering themselves as a

2596
01:30:19,669 --> 01:30:18,000
religion right like he said okay well it

2597
01:30:21,590 --> 01:30:19,679
just depends on how you look at it yeah

2598
01:30:25,110 --> 01:30:21,600
it depends on how you look at it i

2599
01:30:28,950 --> 01:30:25,120
feel like it's pretty perfect

2600
01:30:31,830 --> 01:30:28,960
to what i'm i would look for

2601
01:30:33,430 --> 01:30:31,840
if i'm looking for some sort of answers

2602
01:30:35,750 --> 01:30:33,440
i'm not saying like hey let's go

2603
01:30:36,709 --> 01:30:35,760
let's go join the let's go let's go to

2604
01:30:39,669 --> 01:30:36,719
boulder let's move

2605
01:30:41,590 --> 01:30:39,679
yeah i'm just saying like it's i had a

2606
01:30:42,310 --> 01:30:41,600
very good time i feel i feel like a lot

2607
01:30:44,390 --> 01:30:42,320
of my

2608
01:30:46,070 --> 01:30:44,400
answers or my questions were answered in

2609
01:30:48,950 --> 01:30:46,080
a very thoughtful way

2610
01:30:50,149 --> 01:30:48,960
and i don't feel like i've been lured

2611
01:30:52,229 --> 01:30:50,159
into a trap

2612
01:30:54,470 --> 01:30:52,239
yeah yeah even so going back to like the

2613
01:30:57,669 --> 01:30:54,480
physical location that's like

2614
01:30:59,750 --> 01:30:57,679
red flag oh [\h__\h] oh uh another uh waco

2615
01:31:01,510 --> 01:30:59,760
right yeah uh you know it's a david

2616
01:31:03,750 --> 01:31:01,520
crush situation yeah but

2617
01:31:05,350 --> 01:31:03,760
i didn't get that vibe no yeah me either

2618
01:31:06,870 --> 01:31:05,360
and like i said man i mean it was one of

2619
01:31:10,149 --> 01:31:06,880
those things where

2620
01:31:10,470 --> 01:31:10,159
uh you know i did all the issues that i

2621
01:31:14,149 --> 01:31:10,480
do

2622
01:31:17,350 --> 01:31:14,159
seem to

2623
01:31:20,550 --> 01:31:17,360
be a thing with this like yeah it was

2624
01:31:21,030 --> 01:31:20,560
nice you know uh he didn't make it about

2625
01:31:23,510 --> 01:31:21,040
him

2626
01:31:25,270 --> 01:31:23,520
right right it was it was all about the

2627
01:31:28,629 --> 01:31:25,280
message which was really cool

2628
01:31:30,390 --> 01:31:28,639
yeah um and you know i mean

2629
01:31:32,070 --> 01:31:30,400
one of the things you know like like i

2630
01:31:35,189 --> 01:31:32,080
said dude i'm not really like

2631
01:31:37,750 --> 01:31:35,199
religious or anything uh i don't know

2632
01:31:39,270 --> 01:31:37,760
if you know like we said we talked about

2633
01:31:43,189 --> 01:31:39,280
having god in this box

2634
01:31:45,510 --> 01:31:43,199
yeah you know like like does god

2635
01:31:46,310 --> 01:31:45,520
like you pray before a baseball game

2636
01:31:49,110 --> 01:31:46,320
like i don't think

2637
01:31:50,229 --> 01:31:49,120
god gives a [\h__\h] on whose team wins both

2638
01:31:51,910 --> 01:31:50,239
teams prayed

2639
01:31:53,590 --> 01:31:51,920
so does that mean that god hates one

2640
01:31:56,070 --> 01:31:53,600
team more than the other you know

2641
01:31:56,870 --> 01:31:56,080
this this message type thing kind of

2642
01:31:58,790 --> 01:31:56,880
takes god

2643
01:32:00,629 --> 01:31:58,800
out of that box you know what i'm saying

2644
01:32:01,430 --> 01:32:00,639
like does he care when you play the

2645
01:32:02,790 --> 01:32:01,440
lottery

2646
01:32:04,950 --> 01:32:02,800
you know what i'm saying people like oh

2647
01:32:06,790 --> 01:32:04,960
i pray to god that i that i win this

2648
01:32:08,550 --> 01:32:06,800
lotto ticket you know but like

2649
01:32:10,550 --> 01:32:08,560
i don't think god gives a [\h__\h] about

2650
01:32:12,790 --> 01:32:10,560
that you know yeah dude does he

2651
01:32:13,669 --> 01:32:12,800
really care yeah you know i don't think

2652
01:32:16,950 --> 01:32:13,679
he does

2653
01:32:20,629 --> 01:32:16,960
this is kind of more of like a uh

2654
01:32:23,030 --> 01:32:20,639
uh i've set everything in motion and uh

2655
01:32:23,990 --> 01:32:23,040
i'm kind of standing back kind of god

2656
01:32:25,910 --> 01:32:24,000
like here's

2657
01:32:27,750 --> 01:32:25,920
here's the message i think you guys

2658
01:32:28,229 --> 01:32:27,760
should listen to but i'm not going to

2659
01:32:32,550 --> 01:32:28,239
like

2660
01:32:35,510 --> 01:32:32,560
not i'm not messing with stuff

2661
01:32:36,550 --> 01:32:35,520
are you guys lost yeah exactly he's kind

2662
01:32:39,669 --> 01:32:36,560
of standing back

2663
01:32:41,910 --> 01:32:39,679
you know and that's the kind of uh uh

2664
01:32:43,510 --> 01:32:41,920
god that i think of you know yeah um

2665
01:32:45,189 --> 01:32:43,520
which is which is a really fresh

2666
01:32:46,550 --> 01:32:45,199
is a perspective pretty chill guy and

2667
01:32:48,629 --> 01:32:46,560
again we're saying god

2668
01:32:50,390 --> 01:32:48,639
for lack of a better term don't let that

2669
01:32:50,950 --> 01:32:50,400
term turn you off you know it's kind of

2670
01:32:53,990 --> 01:32:50,960
like

2671
01:32:56,390 --> 01:32:54,000
oh

2672
01:32:57,270 --> 01:32:56,400
do you pray well i don't pray i'm not

2673
01:33:00,149 --> 01:32:57,280
into that but i

2674
01:33:01,189 --> 01:33:00,159
meditate it's the same thing you know

2675
01:33:03,189 --> 01:33:01,199
what i'm saying it's it's

2676
01:33:04,790 --> 01:33:03,199
it's the same thing it's just your your

2677
01:33:06,950 --> 01:33:04,800
your cultural difference your

2678
01:33:09,350 --> 01:33:06,960
your preference on wording stuff yeah

2679
01:33:12,550 --> 01:33:09,360
it's just uh it's just different so

2680
01:33:13,189 --> 01:33:12,560
so don't let that term you know god or

2681
01:33:14,870 --> 01:33:13,199
whatever

2682
01:33:16,709 --> 01:33:14,880
i mean turn you off because you know

2683
01:33:17,830 --> 01:33:16,719
that's something that i've had to battle

2684
01:33:21,350 --> 01:33:17,840
myself

2685
01:33:23,830 --> 01:33:21,360
um when people talk about it um

2686
01:33:25,510 --> 01:33:23,840
just people are like oh yes god this and

2687
01:33:26,950 --> 01:33:25,520
it would kind of make me cringe a little

2688
01:33:28,790 --> 01:33:26,960
bit because it's like i don't know if i

2689
01:33:30,070 --> 01:33:28,800
really believe that yeah but yeah you

2690
01:33:32,709 --> 01:33:30,080
know um

2691
01:33:33,910 --> 01:33:32,719
this message uh is pretty dope dude

2692
01:33:35,750 --> 01:33:33,920
sounds cool to me man

2693
01:33:37,350 --> 01:33:35,760
i don't really you know i mean what is

2694
01:33:38,870 --> 01:33:37,360
it it's not saying you're doing

2695
01:33:40,790 --> 01:33:38,880
something wrong and you need to fix

2696
01:33:42,149 --> 01:33:40,800
yourself you need to go into servitude

2697
01:33:45,189 --> 01:33:42,159
it's it's literally like

2698
01:33:46,629 --> 01:33:45,199
hey there's other aliens there's other

2699
01:33:48,790 --> 01:33:46,639
people beside you dude

2700
01:33:50,950 --> 01:33:48,800
that's a message there's a bigger

2701
01:33:52,470 --> 01:33:50,960
picture here oh you're not the center of

2702
01:33:55,750 --> 01:33:52,480
the universe it's it's not

2703
01:33:57,350 --> 01:33:55,760
it doesn't seem like it's hey everybody

2704
01:34:00,310 --> 01:33:57,360
needs to wear a [\h__\h] beanie

2705
01:34:01,270 --> 01:34:00,320
24 7. if you don't like you're doomed to

2706
01:34:05,350 --> 01:34:01,280
hell it's it's

2707
01:34:06,629 --> 01:34:05,360
it's literally so i don't know it's easy

2708
01:34:08,390 --> 01:34:06,639
there's no it doesn't seem like there's

2709
01:34:09,110 --> 01:34:08,400
a motive behind it yeah yeah it is a

2710
01:34:10,950 --> 01:34:09,120
little easier

2711
01:34:12,149 --> 01:34:10,960
hey you're not by yourself stop being an

2712
01:34:15,270 --> 01:34:12,159
[\h__\h] like yeah

2713
01:34:16,310 --> 01:34:15,280
take your [\h__\h] like stop being so

2714
01:34:18,550 --> 01:34:16,320
self-centered

2715
01:34:21,030 --> 01:34:18,560
think of others that sounds pretty nice

2716
01:34:23,350 --> 01:34:21,040
to me yeah i mean it sounds nice man

2717
01:34:24,790 --> 01:34:23,360
it sounds nice okay so all right let's

2718
01:34:28,070 --> 01:34:24,800
get rid of the let's stop

2719
01:34:30,629 --> 01:34:28,080
doing the infomercial i mean i i don't

2720
01:34:34,229 --> 01:34:32,550
it seems like i don't want to sell it

2721
01:34:36,790 --> 01:34:34,239
too much right like for the show

2722
01:34:38,070 --> 01:34:36,800
right like i don't want it yeah i mean

2723
01:34:41,510 --> 01:34:38,080
we're not

2724
01:34:43,030 --> 01:34:41,520
we're here to listen to what these

2725
01:34:45,430 --> 01:34:43,040
people have to say

2726
01:34:47,109 --> 01:34:45,440
um and then we're just discussing it

2727
01:34:49,189 --> 01:34:47,119
after we've finished talking

2728
01:34:50,629 --> 01:34:49,199
yeah you know to read basically man i

2729
01:34:51,830 --> 01:34:50,639
mean you know i mean this is literally

2730
01:34:53,350 --> 01:34:51,840
we got off the phone we didn't stop

2731
01:34:54,550 --> 01:34:53,360
recording we're just going straight

2732
01:34:56,310 --> 01:34:54,560
we're going straight into it i mean

2733
01:34:58,149 --> 01:34:56,320
these are just thoughts off the tops of

2734
01:34:59,030 --> 01:34:58,159
our head you know yeah we're not selling

2735
01:35:00,950 --> 01:34:59,040
anything i mean

2736
01:35:02,149 --> 01:35:00,960
you know the listeners they can make up

2737
01:35:05,270 --> 01:35:02,159
their own minds you know

2738
01:35:07,109 --> 01:35:05,280
i'm not gonna you know i

2739
01:35:08,790 --> 01:35:07,119
do have some of the literature that like

2740
01:35:10,550 --> 01:35:08,800
i picked up from the table and i

2741
01:35:11,830 --> 01:35:10,560
plan on reading through some of that

2742
01:35:13,510 --> 01:35:11,840
stuff um

2743
01:35:15,590 --> 01:35:13,520
you know but i mean i'm not gonna like

2744
01:35:17,270 --> 01:35:15,600
go home right now and download every

2745
01:35:19,910 --> 01:35:17,280
single thing that's like available

2746
01:35:20,310 --> 01:35:19,920
just because one i don't read that fast

2747
01:35:25,830 --> 01:35:20,320
and

2748
01:35:28,229 --> 01:35:25,840
step by step you know like i'm not like

2749
01:35:29,830 --> 01:35:28,239
i'm not trying to convert anybody i'm

2750
01:35:31,590 --> 01:35:29,840
not converting you know what i'm saying

2751
01:35:33,189 --> 01:35:31,600
but i do think it's a very

2752
01:35:34,950 --> 01:35:33,199
interesting perspective super

2753
01:35:37,270 --> 01:35:34,960
interesting yeah you know man

2754
01:35:38,709 --> 01:35:37,280
and what a like just nice group of

2755
01:35:41,990 --> 01:35:38,719
people like justin

2756
01:35:44,550 --> 01:35:42,000
super nice [\h__\h] dude super nice like

2757
01:35:45,590 --> 01:35:44,560
well-spoken people yeah i don't know i

2758
01:35:48,229 --> 01:35:45,600
just i've had a great

2759
01:35:49,430 --> 01:35:48,239
great time talking to you is great man i

2760
01:35:50,229 --> 01:35:49,440
definitely want to have them on the show

2761
01:35:51,910 --> 01:35:50,239
again for sure

2762
01:35:53,669 --> 01:35:51,920
yeah we say that about every single

2763
01:35:54,070 --> 01:35:53,679
guest that we have on but they're all so

2764
01:35:55,669 --> 01:35:54,080
cool

2765
01:35:57,030 --> 01:35:55,679
you know what if we had a guest on that

2766
01:35:58,470 --> 01:35:57,040
we were like hey you know what we should

2767
01:36:00,750 --> 01:35:58,480
probably never talk to that person ever

2768
01:36:04,629 --> 01:36:00,760
again it sucks

2769
01:36:08,629 --> 01:36:07,510
i feel like as i listen to this podcast

2770
01:36:10,709 --> 01:36:08,639
again i'm going to come up with

2771
01:36:11,830 --> 01:36:10,719
other questions because i know i am so

2772
01:36:15,030 --> 01:36:11,840
i'd love to have

2773
01:36:18,629 --> 01:36:15,040
read back on so absolutely man yeah

2774
01:36:20,790 --> 01:36:18,639
dude all right dude hey hey

2775
01:36:22,590 --> 01:36:20,800
hey by the way by the way don't forget

2776
01:36:24,390 --> 01:36:22,600
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2777
01:36:26,629 --> 01:36:24,400
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2778
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2779
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2780
01:36:33,669 --> 01:36:31,920
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2781
01:36:34,669 --> 01:36:33,679
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2782
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2783
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2784
01:36:41,510 --> 01:36:39,280
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2785
01:36:42,870 --> 01:36:41,520
at uh abduction 51 man that's what and

2786
01:36:43,590 --> 01:36:42,880
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2787
01:36:45,030 --> 01:36:43,600
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2788
01:36:47,030 --> 01:36:45,040
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2789
01:36:48,470 --> 01:36:47,040
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2790
01:36:50,470 --> 01:36:48,480
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2791
01:36:51,189 --> 01:36:50,480
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2792
01:36:53,109 --> 01:36:51,199
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2793
01:36:54,470 --> 01:36:53,119
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2794
01:36:56,550 --> 01:36:54,480
you know a little moolah here and there

2795
01:36:58,390 --> 01:36:56,560
to to pay for our website and stuff

2796
01:36:59,590 --> 01:36:58,400
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2797
01:37:01,910 --> 01:36:59,600
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2798
01:37:02,790 --> 01:37:01,920
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2799
01:37:04,550 --> 01:37:02,800
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2800
01:37:05,990 --> 01:37:04,560
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2801
01:37:07,990 --> 01:37:06,000
know do all that honestly

2802
01:37:09,830 --> 01:37:08,000
instead of buying a shirt subscribing to

2803
01:37:10,390 --> 01:37:09,840
us on youtube would almost be equivalent

2804
01:37:11,830 --> 01:37:10,400
to that

2805
01:37:13,750 --> 01:37:11,840
you know yeah i mean i guess it kind of

2806
01:37:17,109 --> 01:37:13,760
would yeah go to youtube and subscribe

2807
01:37:19,430 --> 01:37:17,119
totally sick yeah man uh you know we all

2808
01:37:20,950 --> 01:37:19,440
we all live in 2020 i mean that's just

2809
01:37:22,390 --> 01:37:20,960
something you do now you hit like

2810
01:37:25,030 --> 01:37:22,400
buttons and subscribe buttons

2811
01:37:25,430 --> 01:37:25,040
smash that so freaking if you if you

2812
01:37:29,030 --> 01:37:25,440
like it

2813
01:37:32,070 --> 01:37:29,040
go do it all right all right dude